Can The World Survive Without Religion (Yes or No) A Hindu P (General)

by David Turell , Sunday, November 28, 2010, 17:54 (4918 days ago) @ satyansh


> than why does the creator mess up when he creates retarded children or children with disabilities. if they think as they did in the link it had to start somewhere David. i am not saying that natural selection by chance is right but in comparison to what i read on this link I would say for me natural selection by chance makes more sense to me. -How do you know a 'creator' messed up? You are attributing morals to the creator who may not have existing morals. You are making the same mistake western religions make. Giving attributes to whatever created this universe. Natural selection allowed illness, congenital mistakes, etc. Why should NS be so special and so powerful as the Darwinists explain?
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> for me the idea of a creator actually creating this is highly far fetched. I am not good with expressing myself in technical terms but the creator of this link seems to be the be all and end all of the world who cannot mess up but in my eyes there are too many mess ups that we have made. -I was using the link to show you the complexities of living biochemistry, not that I accept the preachings of a fundamentalist website. My point remains that the complexities of living biochemistry are too complex for mere chance to have stumbled upon.-> This is where the eastern philophies differ where they were always asking questions even in the vedas which are much older than all the western faiths. heres one of the verses in the first vedas
> The Nasadiya Sukta, a creation hymn, says: 
> "Who really knows? Who will here proclaim it? Whence was it produced? 
> Whence is this creation? The gods came afterwards, with the creation of the universe. 
> Who then knows whence it has arisen? Whence this creation has arisen-perhaps it formed itself, or perhaps it did not-the one who looks down on it, in the highest heaven, only He knows-or perhaps He does not know" -None of us knows, but there is still the Western question: Why is there anything rather than nothing?
 -> No wonder it is easy for a Indian to accept agnosticism or atheism and still be a Hindu / jain / Buddhist because it was always made a part of it and hence I find we dont need to abolish our religious and cultural identity to accept science whereas science for me in the western world is like directly agaisnt religion and you have to pick one of the two which is so sad.-No you don't. I think (as my book does) that science is in the process of proving there is a universal intelligence. Ignore religion and study science. I've already accepted my moral basis for livig with everyone else. I'm just like your philosophy of living, but you are in a sense placing yourself above most people by stating that they need religion to keep them in a moral line, but you don't. I recognize that I am doing that also. Religion is not necessary for the well-thought-out person. but I need to know why there is anything. And I think studying the 'how' will tell me.