God and Evolution (Evolution)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Saturday, December 26, 2009, 16:33 (5255 days ago) @ David Turell

David,
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> Matt: I am a panentheist. God created the universe and since he pre-existed it, He is both within and without. I use science to lead me to a belief in God, but one that does not fit any pre-existing theology, other than stating there is a God. You are right, God does conform to scientific findings as they study what He produced. I am certainly not sure that He is as perfect in all spheres as they claim.-I guess our general ideas of God are divergent: Knowing what I know about the universe, there is no sound or valid reasoning that justifies an entity both being "in" and "out" of the universe; We know via the laws of physics that neither matter or energy can be two places at once. A being that is outside of the universe is outside of the laws of physics, but the moment it enters our universe it is constrained by all physical laws. So, then, in order to justify the kind of God you're describing--we need a valid explanation for the laws outside of our universe, as well as an explanation that describes how such a being can apparently "break" laws in order to "tinker."-There's far too much supposition in all of that for me to choke down. -A simpler and more harmonious view would be more in line with Process views that I've read (not necessarily Frank's) where the Creator exists as part of the universe, but is just as bound to it as we are. We could be viewed as expressions of its creative will, but one that must make iterative changes. It's "will" as it were is excessively subtle, and since it would be the energy of the universe itself, it would permeate everything. But just as things disperse and become less concentrated in water, so too would be this God. -It is this idea that generated my idea for a novel where the universe was created by the death of God, and we are the "life flashing before its eyes."

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