Wistar Institute Conference; Happy 50th Birthday (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Thursday, April 28, 2016, 02:42 (2892 days ago)

This famous conference 50 years ago featured the world's most famous mathematicians who told the Darwinists that mathematical attempts to prove Darwin only strongly suggested it was wrong:-http://www.evolutionnews.org/2016/04/for_darwin_advo102798.html-"'It looks like the math is not going to cooperate" with Darwinism, was the message the mathematicians and physicists delivered to their biologist colleagues. As Paul says, the official monograph that followed the conference -- "Mathematical Challenges to the Neo-Darwinian Interpretation of Evolution" (1967) -- features transcripts of the conversations and one can all but hear the attendees tossing chairs at each other.-***-"The 52 listed participants also include Loren Eiseley, Murray Eden, Stanislaw Ulam, William Bossert, Ernst Mayr, Richard Lewontin, and C.H. Waddington. No debate about Darwinism, you say?-***-"Dr. Nelson notes that the upcoming Royal Society meeting, "New trends in evolutionary biology: biological, philosophical and social science perspectives," to be held in November of this year, will likely replay the drama of Wistar. And as I mentioned on Friday, Science Magazine last week reported on a new $8.7 million project funded by the Templeton Foundation devoted to an "evolution rethink" that has the more rigid Darwinists squawking in protest. Undisputed scientific "facts" don't need to be "rethought."-"What's changed since 1966 is that challenges to Darwinism have multiplied and grown enormously in scientific sophistication, matched by the heightened defensiveness of Darwin apologists. The mathematical challenge, like the others, remains without a convincing answer. That's why in replying to critics, Darwinists overwhelmingly content themselves with storytelling, insults, and invective."-Comment: I have a copy of the proceedings and covered it in my first book. Thee biologists could not believe the math folks were not being cooperative.

Wistar Institute Conference; Happy 50th Birthday

by dhw, Thursday, April 28, 2016, 11:51 (2891 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: This famous conference 50 years ago featured the world's most famous mathematicians who told the Darwinists that mathematical attempts to prove Darwin only strongly suggested it was wrong:-http://www.evolutionnews.org/2016/04/for_darwin_advo102798.html-The mathematicians showed the extreme unlikelihood of chance coming up with all the innovations necessary for evolution from single cells to us. They did not show the unlikelihood of common descent. Creationists desperately try to lump the two theories together, as if the mathematicians have discredited the theory of evolution. They have not. They have discredited Darwin's theory concerning how evolution works. Such a distortion puts the creationists on a par with Dawkins, who desperately tries to lump natural selection (which is not random and which mathematicians acknowledge as the means by which some organisms survive and others don't) together with random mutations as if the one somehow vindicates the other. It does not. If you want to see the whole landscape, you don't put on blinkers.

Wistar Institute Conference; Happy 50th Birthday

by David Turell @, Thursday, April 28, 2016, 18:23 (2891 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Creationists desperately try to lump the two theories together, as if the mathematicians have discredited the theory of evolution. They have not. They have discredited Darwin's theory concerning how evolution works. Such a distortion puts the creationists on a par with Dawkins, who desperately tries to lump natural selection (which is not random and which mathematicians acknowledge as the means by which some organisms survive and others don't) together with random mutations as if the one somehow vindicates the other. It does not. If you want to see the whole landscape, you don't put on blinkers. - I fully agree with your comments. Evolution seems to have happened. The method is still unknown.

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