Biophotons for bbella (Introduction)
by David Turell 
, Wednesday, January 02, 2013, 15:25 (4135 days ago)
For bbella, have you see this article?-http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v111/i9/p093519_s1?isAuthorized=no-Or this fascinating abstract:-"Information transfer is a fundamental of life. A few studies have reported that cells use photons (from an endogenous source) as information carriers. This study finds that cells can have an influence on other cells even when separated with a glass barrier, thereby disabling molecule diffusion through the cell-containing medium. As there is still very little known about the potential of photons for intercellular communication this study is designed to test for non-molecule-based triggering of two fundamental properties of life: cell division and energy uptake. The study was performed with a cellular organism, the ciliate Paramecium caudatum. Mutual exposure of cell populations occurred under conditions of darkness and separation with cuvettes (vials) allowing photon but not molecule transfer. The cell populations were separated either with glass allowing photon transmission from 340 nm to longer waves, or quartz being transmittable from 150 nm, i.e. from UV-light to longer waves. Even through glass, the cells affected cell division and energy uptake in neighboring cell populations. Depending on the cuvette material and the number of cells involved, these effects were positive or negative. Also, while paired populations with lower growth rates grew uncorrelated, growth of the better growing populations was correlated. As there were significant differences when separating the populations with glass or quartz, it is suggested that the cell populations use two (or more) frequencies for cellular information transfer, which influences at least energy uptake, cell division rate and growth correlation. Altogether the study strongly supports a cellular communication system, which is different from a molecule-receptor-based system and hints that photon-triggering is a fine tuning principle in cell chemistry."-http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0005086
Biophotons for bbella
by BBella , Friday, January 04, 2013, 05:45 (4133 days ago) @ David Turell
For bbella, have you see this article? > > http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v111/i9/p093519_s1?isAuthorized=no ... > Or this fascinating abstract: > > "Information transfer is a fundamental of life. A few studies have reported that cells use photons (from an endogenous source) as information carriers. This study finds that cells can have an influence on other cells even when separated with a glass barrier, thereby disabling molecule diffusion through the cell-containing medium. As there is still very little known about the potential of photons for intercellular communication this study is designed to test for non-molecule-based triggering of two fundamental properties of life: cell division and energy uptake. The study was performed with a cellular organism, the ciliate Paramecium caudatum. Mutual exposure of cell populations occurred under conditions of darkness and separation with cuvettes (vials) allowing photon but not molecule transfer. The cell populations were separated either with glass allowing photon transmission from 340 nm to longer waves, or quartz being transmittable from 150 nm, i.e. from UV-light to longer waves. Even through glass, the cells affected cell division and energy uptake in neighboring cell populations. Depending on the cuvette material and the number of cells involved, these effects were positive or negative. Also, while paired populations with lower growth rates grew uncorrelated, growth of the better growing populations was correlated. As there were significant differences when separating the populations with glass or quartz, it is suggested that the cell populations use two (or more) frequencies for cellular information transfer, which influences at least energy uptake, cell division rate and growth correlation. Altogether the study strongly supports a cellular communication system, which is different from a molecule-receptor-based system and hints that photon-triggering is a fine tuning principle in cell chemistry." > > http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0005086-Thanks David! No, I haven't seen these articles before. They are a bit above my level of understanding but can see they are saying that it does appear cells use bio-photons for cellular communication. I would like to understand what the last sentence means, "a cellular communication system....hints that photon-triggering is a fine tuning principle in cell chemistry. Any idea?
Biophotons for bbella
by David Turell , Friday, January 04, 2013, 15:06 (4133 days ago) @ BBella
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0005086 &... > B Bella: Thanks David! No, I haven't seen these articles before. They are a bit above my level of understanding but can see they are saying that it does appear cells use bio-photons for cellular communication. I would like to understand what the last sentence means, "a cellular communication system....hints that photon-triggering is a fine tuning principle in cell chemistry. Any idea?-Yes. Fine tuning in all senses means the parameters of cellular control are very tight, and have a very narrow range of values. This is the approach used in defining a fine-tuned universe. This is partially what dhw refers to as 'intelligent cells'. They are really about as intelligent as your computer, but all of their cellular controls are very tightly defined, just as your computer makes no mistakes in mathematical computations. But your computer can become contaminated by a virus, just as cells can. Photons are really information carriers, but so are active molecules in the cells, working under tight guidance by chemical algorithms