Mind and Consciousness (Religion)

by dhw, Tuesday, May 01, 2012, 16:50 (4587 days ago) @ xeno6696

MATT: dhw recently wrote to David, speaking that he believes that the universe has, as fundamental components, mind and consciousness.
I would ask that he gives more fruit to the tree...-So far, Matt, you have told David that he is a pantheist, which he is not, that he might be a Vaishnava Hindu, which he is not, and that you have caught panentheism in its logical trap, which you have not. Now you tell me that I believe mind and consciousness to be fundamental components of the universe, which I do not. That is David's belief. Do please reread my post of 30 April at 14.19 under "Panentheism", where in response to David I state my view that energy transmutes itself into matter, that theists believe it is conscious, that atheists believe it is not conscious, and that agnostics (like me) sit on the fence.-Perhaps it would be helpful if you would respond to the arguments against your various assertions (or withdraw them) rather than zooming away to make another one. But it serves me right for trying to act as what David has called "sitting referee"!