A Brief Message (Humans)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Monday, February 20, 2012, 17:34 (4659 days ago)

dhw, david,-I'm extremely busy, and especially to dhw: I read your initial response to me from about a week ago and your follow up where you mediated your dialog a bit.-My current problem is that at this moment I'm more or less completely reforming how I think about many of these topics, so it isn't fair just yet for me to respond as it could be obsolete thinking by the time you read it. -Giobran's book at present hasn't attacked me with anything other than what I would consider to be ordinary stuff, but he keeps hinting at powerful ideas.-I will say this: not his words, but he pointed out something that made me think.-We know that there was an initial condition, and we already know what the end state will be. (Alpha and Omega.) But the key, jaw-dropping stunner for me is the realization that the universe at the beginning was at no higher state of order than it will be until its demise. In other words... arguments about complexity in terms of life, in terms of the necessity of the creator... fail as they are illusory. In what way? If there was no higher state of order than the singularity: All forms of order that we see and can discern are necessarily *lower* forms of order. And it is the 2nd law of thermodynamics that drives this forward. Oddly... this corellates considerably well with the writings of mystics I've read across many traditions. Tony once meandered down that path: The exploration that we were once mighty and have been decaying...-(The end I discussed above is the stretching of space to be perfectly flat.) -Musings of a madman I'm sure, but as I said my mind is ablaze of late...

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"