The value of SETI, any? (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Tuesday, December 06, 2011, 23:23 (4714 days ago)

Now we know there are lots of planets. Is there life on this galaxy? After 35 years with the galaxy 100,000 light years across, much to early to ask the question. Theologic implications? See as follows:

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/08/extraterrestrial-intelligence

The value of SETI, any?

by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Wednesday, December 07, 2011, 03:27 (4714 days ago) @ David Turell

Now we know there are lots of planets. Is there life on this galaxy? After 35 years with the galaxy 100,000 light years across, much to early to ask the question. Theologic implications? See as follows:

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/08/extraterrestrial-intelligence

Your title and the article kinda diverge: From SETI we got this:

Massively parallel distributed computing.

Google "Rosetta @home," "Protein Folding @home," and "Spinhenge @home" just to name 3.

The technology devised to help scientists study SETI data has spawned outgrowths to other fields, completely unrelated, but is having far reaches into medicine, physics, and mathematics. (primegrid.)

Crichton's criticism is correct: Even our own development has many, many chance events to credit. Mexico and South America would probably still be engaging in human sacrifice today had 1492 never happened.

Statistically speaking however, there will always be a stronger argument for even cross-pollination, than creation from an invisible, incorporeal being. (improbable is always more likely than impossible.)

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

The value of SETI, any?

by David Turell @, Wednesday, December 07, 2011, 05:42 (4714 days ago) @ xeno6696

Now we know there are lots of planets. Is there life on this galaxy? After 35 years with the galaxy 100,000 light years across, much to early to ask the question. Theologic implications? See as follows:

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/08/extraterrestrial-intelligence


I understand that projecgs like this and the space program produce all sorts of wondereful side effects in new popular applilcations. My only point is the theological one, and it is much too soon to pass any kind of judgment or disapointment

The value of SETI, any?

by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Wednesday, December 07, 2011, 23:36 (4713 days ago) @ David Turell

Now we know there are lots of planets. Is there life on this galaxy? After 35 years with the galaxy 100,000 light years across, much to early to ask the question. Theologic implications? See as follows:

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/08/extraterrestrial-intelligence

I understand that projecgs like this and the space program produce all sorts of wondereful side effects in new popular applilcations. My only point is the theological one, and it is much too soon to pass any kind of judgment or disapointment

Yet you don't offer the same for precambrian transitional forms?

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

The value of SETI, any?

by David Turell @, Thursday, December 08, 2011, 02:03 (4713 days ago) @ xeno6696

Now we know there are lots of planets. Is there life on this galaxy? After 35 years with the galaxy 100,000 light years across, much to early to ask the question. Theologic implications? See as follows:

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/08/extraterrestrial-intelligence

I understand that projects like this and the space program produce all sorts of wonderful side effects in new popular applications. My only point is the theological one, and it is much too soon to pass any kind of judgment or disapointment


Yet you don't offer the same for precambrian transitional forms?

You are comparing pigs and cows. SETI obviously hasn't had time to find a signal of life. My argument about the Cambrian has two parts: 1) the time we have searched and the fact that we know where to look and, (2)the extremely complexity of the organisms that appeared so suddenly, when compared to over 2 billion years of evolution piddling along with very un-complex organisms.

The value of SETI, any?

by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Wednesday, December 07, 2011, 03:32 (4714 days ago) @ David Turell

Now we know there are lots of planets. Is there life on this galaxy? After 35 years with the galaxy 100,000 light years across, much to early to ask the question. Theologic implications? See as follows:

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/08/extraterrestrial-intelligence

Having completely read the article... I simply have to ask, do we really think that considering ourselves as superior to all other life is hubris? If its one thing I think I've learned from my life, it's that Fungi are the top of the food chain. (Even the best of us, will die.)

Not to mention that it is man's supposition of superiority over other men that caused Gulags and the Holocaust--not evolution, as the author is implicitly arguing. As much as I love competition, it is the assertion of superiority that time and again burns man. Why else does both the Jewish and the Christian faith--value the meek?

--
\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

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