Abel;slides (Introduction)
by David Turell 
, Friday, November 18, 2011, 06:44 (4733 days ago)
Abel: Are the slides being sent? you have made no response.
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by Abel , Friday, November 18, 2011, 07:18 (4733 days ago) @ David Turell
I bought some packaging today. I don't think prepared slides will transport well so I am sending skin samples in a vial, eosin dye and a couple of slides with cover slips. I let you know when it is mailed.
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by David Turell , Friday, November 18, 2011, 15:13 (4732 days ago) @ Abel
I bought some packaging today. I don't think prepared slides will transport well so I am sending skin samples in a vial, eosin dye and a couple of slides with cover slips. I let you know when it is mailed.
I have no lab. I am retired with an old but powerful microscope. I need prepared slides as you promised. I have NO way of preparing slides. Please send prepared slides only. Slides are shipped all the time!
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by Abel , Saturday, November 19, 2011, 20:24 (4731 days ago) @ David Turell
I sent two prepared slides. Hopefully, they will survive the trip. I don't have a microscope, so I could not ascertain the quality of my preparation.
I included a spare slide, cover slip , eosin dye, a vial of skin tissue, and a scalpel if you need to make another slide(s).
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by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Saturday, November 19, 2011, 20:45 (4731 days ago) @ Abel
Abel, I would like you to know first off that I do appreciate you making the effort. However, me being me, and being how I am, I will make a prediction and let it be recorded in the AgnosticWeb.com Archives for posterity. Call it a test of my precognitive abilities.
Prediction 1:
Either the prepared slides will show no tri-nucleic cells, or they will be somehow improperly prepared in such a way as to make any such determination impossible.
Prediction 2:
Having been told that David has no way of preparing proper slides himself, you will then claim that you gave him tissue samples so any further lack of evidence is his responsibility, not yours, thus attempting to further your claim despite lacking any hard evidence.
I will be ecstatic if I am proven wrong, but my instincts tell me that I'm not. I am VERY intuitive, and very in touch with my intuition. It is rarely wrong. However, in case I am proven wrong, I now tender my apologies in advance for being a doubting Thomas in regards to the matter of your alien heritage and offer my condolences for you being an archangel slave.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
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by David Turell , Saturday, November 19, 2011, 22:33 (4731 days ago) @ Abel
I sent two prepared slides. Hopefully, they will survive the trip. I don't have a microscope, so I could not ascertain the quality of my preparation.
I included a spare slide, cover slip , eosin dye, a vial of skin tissue, and a scalpel if you need to make another slide(s).
It is obvious you don't seem to know what you are doing. I had histology in college. Basic dye is a combo of hematoxalin and eosin, not just eosin. You can't make a slide with a scalpel blade. You must imbed the tissue in parafin, and then use a microtome to slice the parafin and put that very thin material on a slide for staining. What use is skin tissue, half the dye, and a scalpel to me?
Tony's intuition is right on, it seems. I wioll look at what comes and report to all.
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by DragonsHeart , Saturday, November 19, 2011, 22:40 (4731 days ago) @ David Turell
One thing I've learned over the past 11 1/2 years is that Tony's intuition is generally right. He is one of the smartest men I know. Now I count the gentlemen of this site among those as well.
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by Abel , Saturday, November 19, 2011, 23:18 (4731 days ago) @ David Turell
David: It is obvious you don't seem to know what you are doing. I had histology in college. Basic dye is a combo of hematoxalin and eosin, not just eosin. You can't make a slide with a scalpel blade. You must imbed the tissue in parafin, and then use a microtome to slice the parafin and put that very thin material on a slide for staining. What use is skin tissue, half the dye, and a scalpel to me?
I did tell you that I was only a craftsman. Not much of a demand for slide preparation on construction sites. I have looked at my cells under a microscope that I have scraped from my cheek without preparation and seen the tri-nucleation.
The dye I sent was meant to stain cells, perhaps it has hematoxylin in it.
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by David Turell , Sunday, November 20, 2011, 00:37 (4731 days ago) @ Abel
David: It is obvious you don't seem to know what you are doing. I had histology in college. Basic dye is a combo of hematoxalin and eosin, not just eosin. You can't make a slide with a scalpel blade. You must imbed the tissue in parafin, and then use a microtome to slice the parafin and put that very thin material on a slide for staining. What use is skin tissue, half the dye, and a scalpel to me?
I did tell you that I was only a craftsman. Not much of a demand for slide preparation on construction sites. I have looked at my cells under a microscope that I have scraped from my cheek without preparation and seen the tri-nucleation.
The dye I sent was meant to stain cells, perhaps it has hematoxylin in it.
Thank you for spelling hematoxylin properly. I was out feeding the horses and the proper spelling came to me. I was in histology class 62 years ago! As for what you saw under the microscope of your cells prepared as described, there is no telling what you saw. I'll look at what you have sent and report.
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by David Turell , Monday, November 21, 2011, 23:11 (4729 days ago) @ David Turell
I did tell you that I was only a craftsman. Not much of a demand for slide preparation on construction sites. I have looked at my cells under a microscope that I have scraped from my cheek without preparation and seen the tri-nucleation.
The dye I sent was meant to stain cells, perhaps it has hematoxylin in it.
The slides have arrived. The dye you sent and used is eosin. No hematoxylin. There is no proper preparation of living material, only debris. Preparing slides for microscopic evaluation requires knowing how to do it, as I have previously described. I'm sorry, but I cannot confirm your claims. The material you sent is probably useless to study as it is dried out and not fixed by chemicals as it should be. I have no way of doing DNA on it, and I'm not going to send it to a lab for that purpose. If you wish to confirm your claims, I suggest you go to a legitimate biological lab and have the work done. Then send their bona fide report to this website.
As I described, my mic is a research model I had in medical school. Send me something I can really look at.
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Tony’s prediction has been fulfilled, as I’m sure we all thought it would be. Perhaps my creative imagination is running too fast, but I’m concerned by Abel’s now protracted silence.
Abel, you may not even read these posts, as it’s become increasingly clear that your message is not having the effect you probably hoped for, and so perhaps you’ve already decided that enough is enough. I’m sorry if that is the case. Your posts have certainly given us a few weeks of hectic activity, stimulating thought, and challenges on many fronts. However, my concern is not that you may have given up on us, but that there is something terribly wrong and we have not been able to help you. If what I’m about to say is off the mark or is spoken out of turn, I apologize in advance, but I believe you are a deeply unhappy and disturbed person. Of particular concern is your belief that you’re surrounded by emissaries from Satan who wish to silence you, but you have the ability to kill them. I need hardly stress the implications, and can only hope that there will be no tragic consequences.
If your silence does indeed mean you’ve had enough of us, I wish you well, and thank you for your brief visit.
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by David Turell , Friday, November 25, 2011, 01:36 (4726 days ago) @ dhw
Abel, you may not even read these posts, as it’s become increasingly clear that your message is not having the effect you probably hoped for, and so perhaps you’ve already decided that enough is enough.........I apologize in advance, but I believe you are a deeply unhappy and disturbed person. Of particular concern is your belief that you’re surrounded by emissaries from Satan who wish to silence you, but you have the ability to kill them. I need hardly stress the implications, and can only hope that there will be no tragic consequences.
dhw, Thank you for this commentary. Abel, get help. I don't know how disturbed you are but you are sick, and need help. It is available to you I am sure. Please seek help.
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by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Friday, November 18, 2011, 21:19 (4732 days ago) @ Abel
I do believe the initial offer of evidence was of prepared slides. Besides, sending tissue samples like that would give you an easy way out later on. Besides that, if what you say is true, there is absolutely every reason for you to send those prepared slides, as it affords you some small measure of credibility. If you have examples of Tri-nucleic cells, they will be interesting regardless of whether they are yours or not. My only regret is that I do not have a microscope like David, or I would be asking him to send them to me when he is done with them. :P
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.