Find God by my \"third way\" (Introduction)
by David Turell 
, Thursday, November 03, 2011, 15:03 (4770 days ago)
Early in my presence here I described the way I look at finding God. I don't use religion and I don't use science to debunk religion: this bit from Larry Moran, Sandwalk.com shows why. I think his comments are correct, but all his atheist conclusions are wrong.
http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2011/11/american-justice-system-is-based-on-ten.html#more
Find God by my \"third way\"
by George Jelliss 
, Crewe, Thursday, November 03, 2011, 18:58 (4769 days ago) @ David Turell
Where are his "atheist conclusions" that you think are wrong?
It seems to me that all he is saying is that the first four commandments
are not part of US Law.
Have no god before me (cancels the First Amendment)
Make no graven images (puts Hollywood out of business)
No blaspheming (Jesus Christ!)
Observe the sabbath (puts Wallmart out of business, if it's still in business)
DT's "god" is a very tenuous being who either controls evolution
by intervening undetectably with his invisible noodly appendages
when necessary, or somehow had everything planned in advance
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GPJ
Find God by my \"third way\"
by David Turell , Friday, November 04, 2011, 01:02 (4769 days ago) @ George Jelliss
Where are his "atheist conclusions" that you think are wrong?
I had a brain fart and was unclear. I follow Moran, and disagree with much of his previous opinions.
It seems to me that all he is saying is that the first four commandments
are not part of US Law.
You are correct. The opinion that all 10 commandments are the basis of US law is wrong. And Hebrew misinterpretation is part of the issue. Number six is exactly, 'thou shalt not murder'. Therefore, a society can kill for the good of society. The death penalty is a reasonable punishment, but is excluded in many part of the US.
DT's "god" is a very tenuous being who either controls evolution
by intervening undetectably with his invisible noodly appendages
when necessary, or somehow had everything planned in advance.
I think He planned in advance, as noted before. And by the way, I was at Wal*Mart today. The stores are alive and kicking!
Find God by my \"third way\"
by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Monday, November 14, 2011, 00:39 (4759 days ago) @ David Turell
You are correct. The opinion that all 10 commandments are the basis of US law is wrong. And Hebrew misinterpretation is part of the issue. Number six is exactly, 'thou shalt not murder'. Therefore, a society can kill for the good of society. The death penalty is a reasonable punishment, but is excluded in many part of the US.
I disagree with this part, but only because I don't believe death should be warranted without incontrovertible evidence and a confession. The chance of putting an innocent man to death is more abhorrent to me than letting a killer live.
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"
Find God by my \"third way\"
by David Turell , Monday, November 14, 2011, 00:53 (4759 days ago) @ xeno6696
You are correct. The opinion that all 10 commandments are the basis of US law is wrong. And Hebrew misinterpretation is part of the issue. Number six is exactly, 'thou shalt not murder'. Therefore, a society can kill for the good of society. The death penalty is a reasonable punishment, but is excluded in many part of the US.
I disagree with this part, but only because I don't believe death should be warranted without incontrovertible evidence and a confession. The chance of putting an innocent man to death is more abhorrent to me than letting a killer live.
I agree. Incontrovertable evidence, but not a confession. Confessions can be coerced.
Find God by my \"third way\"
by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Monday, November 14, 2011, 01:01 (4759 days ago) @ David Turell
You are correct. The opinion that all 10 commandments are the basis of US law is wrong. And Hebrew misinterpretation is part of the issue. Number six is exactly, 'thou shalt not murder'. Therefore, a society can kill for the good of society. The death penalty is a reasonable punishment, but is excluded in many part of the US.
I disagree with this part, but only because I don't believe death should be warranted without incontrovertible evidence and a confession. The chance of putting an innocent man to death is more abhorrent to me than letting a killer live.
I agree. Incontrovertable evidence, but not a confession. Confessions can be coerced.
Allow the convicted the ability to recant his confession. Problem solved.
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"