Mutations, bad not good (Introduction)
I have been attempting to pin Tony down on the subject of evolution, and submitted a simple theistic pattern: God created life and organized it in such a way that different forms succeeded one another.-Dhw: There are no assumptions here, and I am only concerned with the overall pattern, not with the details. I now have two questions for you: 1) Can you find fault with this pattern? 2) Can you suggest another that fits in equally well with the three sets of experiences and observations I have listed above? [These were parentage, adaptations, and similarities between humans and earlier mammals.]-TONY: To the general patterns, I do not now, nor have I ever had any real argument against them. That is not the fault I find in evolutionary theory, and never has been. I find that the idea makes sense on many fundamental levels. As I said, though, I think the current paradigm makes far, far too many assumptions. By the same token, I put no more stock in the current wave of fundamentalist creationism than I do in the current Theory of Evolution.-I feel we are moving ever closer now. It might be useful if you were to compile a simple list of these "assumptions", but I'll put in my own pennyworth first. Areas of the current theory which I find to be suspect include: 1) innovations; 2) time scales; 3) gradualism (punctuated equilibrium seems far more convincing to me); 4) the obsession with Natural Selection as a creative force, which it clearly is not. More common ground here?-In terms of the debate on design, at the risk of being a bore let me repeat yet again that the mechanism that has enabled evolution to take place seems to me to be far too complex to attribute to sheer chance. However, I cannot visualize a designer less complex than the design, and so if it is possible to believe in a spontaneously generated designer (or however one wishes to describe a UI), one might just as well believe in a spontaneously generated evolutionary mechanism. Back to the agnostic Square One.
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David Turell,
2011-06-13, 15:02
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-06-24, 07:08
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DragonsHeart,
2011-07-04, 08:48
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-06, 20:51
- Mutations, bad not good - DragonsHeart, 2011-07-08, 14:58
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dhw,
2011-07-11, 22:44
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-11, 23:15
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dhw,
2011-07-12, 22:27
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-13, 01:29
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dhw,
2011-07-14, 14:43
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-14, 17:01
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dhw,
2011-07-15, 15:02
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-15, 16:10
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dhw,
2011-07-16, 12:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-16, 21:25
- Mutations, bad not good - David Turell, 2011-07-17, 02:55
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dhw,
2011-07-17, 22:43
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-18, 01:13
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dhw,
2011-07-19, 08:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-20, 03:45
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dhw,
2011-07-20, 19:25
- Mutations, bad not good - Balance_Maintained, 2011-07-21, 00:16
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-21, 00:28
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dhw,
2011-07-21, 17:51
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-22, 00:32
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dhw,
2011-07-22, 20:36
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-22, 23:54
- Mutations, bad not good - DragonsHeart, 2011-07-23, 01:56
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dhw,
2011-07-24, 08:06
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-25, 00:02
- Mutations, bad not good - dhw, 2011-07-25, 13:40
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-25, 00:02
- Mutations, bad not good - Balance_Maintained, 2011-07-23, 01:18
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-22, 23:54
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dhw,
2011-07-22, 20:36
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-22, 00:32
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dhw,
2011-07-21, 17:51
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dhw,
2011-07-20, 19:25
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-20, 03:45
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dhw,
2011-07-19, 08:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-18, 01:13
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-16, 21:25
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dhw,
2011-07-16, 12:35
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-15, 16:10
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dhw,
2011-07-15, 15:02
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-14, 17:01
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dhw,
2011-07-14, 14:43
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-13, 01:29
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dhw,
2011-07-12, 22:27
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-11, 23:15
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-07-06, 20:51
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DragonsHeart,
2011-07-04, 08:48
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-06-24, 07:08