The Gods--All of them! (Religion)
> > > If you find no common thread throughout the Bible then I would suggest you reread it. Genesis 3:15 specifically is talking about Christ, Son of Man, (Her Seed) and Satan and his demons (Your(His)seed). Satan bruised Christ's 'heel' by his temporary physical death, and Christ will bruise his 'head' by his permanent destruction outlined in revelation. That is the ultimate overall narrative of the Bible. Everything else is a setup for those events. The forming of the nation of Israel from which Christ was supposed to descend from, to his ministry, to his death and resurrection, to Armageddon(sp?). > > > > Sorry to break in but Genesis 3:15 in the Masoretic text is discussing Eve's relationship with the serpent. Is the KJ version so different that Satan and Christ can be extracted from it? > > We can follow it up in another thread later, but in the context of Eve and the serpent, it would make no sense what-so-ever. I will put emnity between Eve's children and a snakes children? I suppose that could mean a fear of snakes, though I seriously doubt it as it does not make any sense in context of either Genesis or the Bible when taken as a whole. > > > >(3) Rev 12:9 (establishes the identity of the serpent beyond question) > > Of course if you only want to accept the OT, or the Torah, or the Pentateuch then none of this will make any sense as Christ was only alluded to prophetically in the OT and not named directly. So before we get into that discussion again, please define the argument by stating whether we will use the Bible as a whole, the OT, the Pentateuch, or what.-Balance, -You won't find a single (practicing) Jew who will agree that the Messiah was prophecied at all in Genesis. In fact, according to modern scholarship, it has been discovered that Genesis, as we know it now, is the product of at least 4 source documents that were combined into the form we recognize today; you might argue with this, but I will give the last word about the Pentateuch to Jewish scholars any day of the week. -Christ was reinterpreted backwards to Genesis. If you don't believe me, pick up your Oxford NRSV 4th edition. Scholars do not agree with you here.
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"
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xeno6696,
2010-11-17, 00:42
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dhw,
2010-11-19, 11:27
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dhw,
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2010-11-27, 20:34
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2010-11-29, 11:28
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2010-12-05, 15:12
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2010-12-05, 07:21
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xeno6696,
2010-11-28, 05:33
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dhw,
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