More "miscellany" PART ONE (General)
PART ONE
Extremophiles
dhw: Read carefully: if he could design anything he wished (remember the Cambrian gap!), why do you think he deliberately designed the 99% of life forms as mistakes which had no connection with his one and only purpose of designing us and our food?
Your answers are as follows:
DAVID: Same tired response: God chose to evolve us. Our evolution is a fact.
And:
Your God has no resemblance to my form of God. He only has a partial control of evolution and thinks like humans.
And:
Answered in a form you refuse to accept, which is God chose to evolve us.
Yes, our evolution is a fact, as is the evolution of all the life forms that had no connection with us and our food. Your form of God is a being whose designs resulted in 99% of mistakes and failed experiments, and who is responsible for what you call the “mess” of evolution. The alternative versions I offer do indeed bear no resemblance to this incompetent bungler. See the thread on your theory
Early humans
DAVID: More dwelling in the past with the usual distortions. Birds are from dinosaurs. Do you eat chicken?
dhw: Why are you pretending that the earlier exchange about dinosaurs never took place? Birds were the 1% of dinosaurs that survived and evolved. But you agreed that the 99% of non-survivors were successful [...]. In that case, if your God designed them but they had no connection with what you think was his sole purpose, they must have served another purpose!
DAVID: Now you distort my comment into pretense that I've abandoned the millions of dinosaur years. Do you eat chicken? Not answered. The 99.9% of non-survivors fill the necessary steps of evolving life into a final level. Have you lost any concept of how evolution works?
You don’t even read my responses. Look at the bold. Chickens descend from the 1% of successes! How can the 99% be necessary steps if they were dead ends that did not evolve into the "final level"? Only the 1% evolved. It is you who have lost any concept of how evolution works.
DAVID: He took on this method knowing the survival rate. You lack any concept of What evolution entails in survival rates. It requires 99.9% extinction.
dhw: He didn’t “take it on”. If he is first cause, he invented it. Why would he invent a method which forces him to design 99 mistakes for every 1 success?
DAVID: Ask Him. I trust in Him and don't have to know. You, on the outside, have no clue how that works.
Your usual final cop-out. You trust in your illogical theory (nothing to do with trusting in God), which is that your all-powerful God is a blunderer who knows he’s a blunderer but chooses to be a blunderer.
Epigenetics
dhw: Bearing in mind your theory that his direct dabbling and/or his 3.8-billion-year-old programmes resulted in a 99% failure rate, don’t you think it’s just possible that he might instead have invented the mechanism and left it to the organisms themselves to use it – just as you believe he designed the earth in such a way that environments would change without his control?
DAVID: There is no tangible evidence of self-induced speciation. Instead, it is obvious from current biochemical research only a very powerful mind could have designed the overwhelming complexity.
The “overwhelming complexity” (which I accept) is a powerful argument for design, but the evidence for God-designed cellular intelligence is no more and no less “tangible” than the evidence for a 3.8-billion-year-old library of instructions in every cell, or of your God personally dabbling with existing organs or making new ones.
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