More "miscellany" PART TWO (General)

by David Turell @, Friday, February 17, 2023, 23:01 (404 days ago) @ dhw

PART TWO

dhw: So please stop pretending that you agree with Guth & Co that there was no before. We reached the same conclusion last time.

Agreed with Guth. Living in our BB, we can honestly say no before is known to exist.


Our neocortex appears de novo

This thread repeats more of the material dealt with under “Return to David’s theory”. I’ll edit.

DAVID: Just like the Cambrian gap. God wanted to design every form that created evolution, a process which naturally creates many failures, but all of which created the progressive steps to more successful, more complex forms. Look at definitions outside of biology:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/evolution

"a gradual process of change and development:
the evolution of language
The new telescope has helped us to understand more about the evolution of the universe.

(Examples removed for required; see website if desired)


DAVID: And all happened with failed attempts.

dw: Where does it say “failed attempts”? Did early language, earlier telescopes, the earlier product, earlier managements or the small agency “fail”? Each of these is an example of one success leading to more success. Even your examples speak against you. In any case, why are you comparing God’s work to ours – are you trying to “humanize” him?

Never to humanize God as you do. Successful results of evolutionary processes are based on successes and failures of trials,


dhw: The next disagreement has you appearing to turn your back on evolution by common descent and embracing Creationism. I asked the usual question: why, if your God could create all new life forms “at any point he wished”, would he have forced himself – he went ahead although he apparently knew everything in advance – to design such a mess (your word) of evolution, with 99% of his work being classed by you as mistakes because they failed to help him achieve his only purpose?

God achieved His purpose by using evolution. Therefore, a complete success. His designed method resembles common descent, in that He built upon past design successes.


DAVID: […] dhw's distorted version of my God turned into a tunnel-visioned diminished idiot of a God is meant to be laughable. It succeeds as a diversionary tactic, not worth ever giving a reasonable response to it. The major issue: Darwin's desire for predecessors at all times for all forms is wrong. Can dhw abandon it?

dhw: Please tell me which part of the bold is a distortion. It is the nub of our dispute, whereas your Darwin question is your own attempt at diversion. But I’ll answer it. I remain open-minded about the Cambrian mystery, the hows and whys of evolution, and the existence of God, and so I can only propose or examine different theories to test what I regard as feasible. If your God exists, it is feasible that he could design life forms without predecessors. But I also see lack of fossils as a feasible explanation for the Cambrian gap.

The gap was carefully defined as 410,000 years, in a study that could not find any more fossils to fit it. Try to remember. All you have is an unsupported wish.

dhw: I don’t know what to believe. Meanwhile, if you can’t find a reasonable answer to my question, please admit it instead of pretending that I’m distorting YOUR theory of a tunnel-visioned, incompetent God.

Answered above and before. God chose to evolve for His own unknown to us reasons.


What our solar system moves into

"In another 8 million years, it is predicted we will reach its edge. […] bbb “We’re accidentally in a great position,” says Zucker. (David’s bold)

"Ongoing work by Opher suggests the higher pressure we would experience as we near the edge of the Local Bubble would shrink the heliopause to the wrong side of Earth’s orbit, exposing us to far more cosmic rays. […] “Where we were in the past and where we are going to be in the future is critical,” says Opher. “I think it will have a direct effect on habitability.'” (David’s bold)

DAVID: the universe is way more complex than we knew. Note my bolds. Accidental safe zone or God's designed protection?

dhw: Bearing in mind that dinosaurs ruled the Earth for about 150 million years, 8 million years is peanuts in geological time. Our safe zone is far from safe. I appreciate your question, but would also apply it to your personal theories and ask if potentially you consider the approaching threat of extinction to be another of your God’s design faults?

What is built in is our sun explodes in five million years and poof, we are gone. Ask God why?


Four solar system types

QUOTE: "What surprised the team was that the "ordered" architecture – the one that also includes the solar system – seems to be the rarest class. (David’s bold)

DAVID: our solar system seems most unique so for. No surprise. Uniqueness protects us.

I still can’t help wondering why your God had to create all these different solar systems with their billions of trillions of stars, just to create our sun and our planet so that he could create us and our food. Sorry to be such a bore.

Ask Him. He doesn't tell me.


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