More "miscellany" PART ONE (General)

by David Turell @, Monday, November 21, 2022, 16:55 (493 days ago) @ dhw

PART ONE

DAVID: Just proved my point again. Try this: God created/designed our reality for His own reasons. Therefore, everything that appeared He did, and if He did it, He thought it was a required item for His purposes. Why design the superfluous not needed???

dhw: If he exists, of course he had his own reasons for designing our reality. However, it does not follow that he individually designed everything that appeared. Every individual human is unique, but even you would not claim that each of us has been individually designed by God!

Of course, God does not design individual member of species!!! God designs species.

dhw: So clearly what he designed (if he exists) was the MECHANISM which produces each of us. The same may apply to all life forms and their ecosystems, lifestyles, strategies, natural wonders etc. Namely, that he produced the mechanisms which in turn produced them. Yes, whatever he created would have been required for his purposes (I note your plural) – but you allow him only one purpose: us and our food, and so your final question is precisely the question you cannot answer, which makes nonsense of your theories: YOU make him design the superfluous!!! Please stop dodging.

Nothing in God's form of evolution is superfluous. You agree all is there for God's reasons. Humans and food are two purposes. God uses evolution for all of His creative processes. Once again you make God look stupid for using evolution.


Evolution: problems for Darwin

DAVID: I accept Him, which means it follows that everything here and in history is His doing. That is my understanding of Him!!! You want deeper? How?

dhw: Same old dodge. If he exists, then of course the history is his doing. The same argument will be true if we interpret the history of dead ends as the result of a free-for-all, or experimentation, or the pursuit of new ideas – all “His doing”. None of us can know the truth, so how can you possibly claim that you understand him?

DAVID: Please remember, my understanding of Him is that I accept all His works as His, for His own reasons and He knows logically what He has to do to reach his goals.

dhw; You always dodge into generalizations which apply to ALL our theories! Of course his works are his, he has his reasons, and he knows logically what he has to do to reach his (plural) goals. But that does not mean he had just one goal (us and our food) and therefore he individually designed countless life forms etc that had nothing to do with his (singular) goal, and he had his reasons for doing so! Once again, your comments are equally applicable to all my alternative theories, which at least have the merit of explaining the dead ends which you cannot explain. Please stop this endless dodging!

It is not a dodge to note all forms of evolution necessarily have dead ends. The countless forms are our food supply


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