More "miscellany" PARTS ONE & TWO (General)

by David Turell @, Sunday, October 30, 2022, 17:16 (515 days ago) @ dhw

Agency

dhw: So they don’t accept his concept of organisms as autonomous, intelligent agents, but they do accept that his concept of organisms as autonomous intelligent agents requires design?

DAVID: Yes, and that design creates automaticity, not your version of autonomous.

dhw: Autonomous here means that the organisms use their own intelligence without interference or guidance from anything outside themselves. What do you and you fellow ID-ers understand by it?

NOT your 'autonomous': cells or organisms follow instructions, so they appear as if they are intelligent.


Human evolution: no hominin ancestor

dhw: You still don’t understand that certain types of fossil are rare! Even a single hominin jawbone is a rarity if we go back millions of years.

Yes, human fossil ancestors are rare.


Horizontal gene transfer

DAVID: What I meant is: if an organism appears, it was God's intent.

dhw: And since you insist that your God’s one and only intent was to design sapiens and his food, he must have decided that without putting snake genes into frogs on Madagascar, there could be no human race, or if there was, we would all starve to death. I understand. I just don’t believe it.

You don't understand it. You mischaracterize it into a lampoon. What exists God wanted to exist.


Toxoplasma

dhw: I don’t suppose you’d care to offer us a reason why your God, who apparently designed every life form with a purpose, would have designed and presumably preprogrammed this very clever parasite.

DAVID: I would assume so.

dhw: Do you mean you assume he designed it? Because it was necessary for the production of us and our food?

Tiresome repeat: What exists God wanted to exist. All part of the giant ecosystem of life on Earth.


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