More "miscellany" PARTS ONE & TWO (General)

by David Turell @, Tuesday, October 18, 2022, 15:58 (527 days ago) @ dhw

MIGRATION

DAVID: Your great supposition is there were survivors from your ill-prepared "first migrants could not have set out remembering where they didn’t know they were going, or knowing what preparations they would need to make for a journey they hadn’t yet made."

dhw: Of course I suppose that there were survivors. Even you must suppose that there were survivors, but you simply refuse to believe that the first survivors could have managed without your God preprogramming them 3.8 billion years ago, or popping in to prepare them and show them the way, because otherwise he wouldn’t have been able to feed us humans.

DAVID: I believe God created a [all?]that He did, including long migrations.

dhw: If God exists, then of course he created all that he created! That doesn’t mean he created every life form, ecosystem, lifestyle, strategy, natural wonder etc. – including long migrations. And your rigid beliefs do not provide any rational answer to my hypotheses.

In regard to migrations, I view your hypothesis as pure imagination, while I look at the practical side and see real problems.


STROKE VICTIMS

DAVID: I'll accept that neurons have been initially given by God the methods to follow to repair later damage.

dhw: So 3.8 billion years ago, your God provided the first cells with instructions not only for every species, ecosystem, lifestyle, strategy, natural wonder etc. for the rest of life’s history, but he even gave them instructions to pass down for when brains got damaged. Alternatively, once he’d dabbled brains, he also popped in to tell the cells what to do if only half of them were present or functional. Bearing in mind that in many cases, damage is NOT repaired, why can’t you just accept the possibility that (if he exists) he gave cells the autonomous intelligence to work things out for themselves. Some can, and some can’t, which would also explain the long history of comings and goings as different cell communities sought different means of survival in an ever changing world.

DAVID: Same old supposition of brilliant cells filled with designing consciousness.

dhw: Yes, it’s the same old theory championed by Margulis, McClintock, Buehler, Shapiro and many other scientists in the field, who believe that cells are intelligent, sentient entities. I don’t know why you think your God is incapable of designing them, or why you stick to the “same old” theories which I have described above and which I suspect you would rather not discuss.

DAVID: There is no point in discussing old discussions.

dhw: Most of our posts discuss “old discussions”, especially concerning the different theories of evolution, and God’s nature, purpose and method. Perhaps, though you could just tell us exactly how you think your God gives/gave neurons the methods to repair later damage to the brains of stroke victims.

The instructions are in the neuron's DNA


Fine tuning and alternatives

QUOTE: Since physicists have not discovered a deep underlying reason for why these constants are what they are, we might well ask the seemingly simple question: What if they were different? What would happen in a hypothetical universe in which the fundamental constants of nature had other values?
"There is nothing mathematically wrong with these hypothetical universes. But there is one thing that they almost always lack — life. Or, indeed, anything remotely resembling life.”

dhw: I am totally bewildered. 1) How can anyone know that a hypothetical universe lacks life? 2) Note the word “almost”. If they almost always lack life, they do not always lack life.

Your editor's role is showing. The point of the essay is fine tuning, and you have no opinion?


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