http://www.physorg.com/news201939898.html

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

http://www.physorg.com/news201939898.html-Didn't check that site this AM. Very intersting, but we still are dealing with macroscopic patterns while the underlying 100 billion or so neurons (all very microscopic) have many trained interconnecting axons as they learned. Not everyone learns the same, so even if macroscopic regions are mapped, the axon interconnections cannot be known, or copied. I'm still doubting Thomas.

http://www.physorg.com/news201939898.html
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> Didn't check that site this AM. Very intersting, but we still are dealing with macroscopic patterns while the underlying 100 billion or so neurons (all very microscopic) have many trained interconnecting axons as they learned. Not everyone learns the same, so even if macroscopic regions are mapped, the axon interconnections cannot be known, or copied. I'm still doubting Thomas.-Here is a fascinating article on how we 'see' the photons that hit the retina, and how we integrate objects into an entire 3-D scene. And I'm still doubting AI can achieve this, and I am not talking about pixels in a camera, but an artificial brain that can see, identify patterns as we do, etc.

http://www.physorg.com/news201939898.html
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> > Didn't check that site this AM. Very intersting, but we still are dealing with macroscopic patterns while the underlying 100 billion or so neurons (all very microscopic) have many trained interconnecting axons as they learned. Not everyone learns the same, so even if macroscopic regions are mapped, the axon interconnections cannot be known, or copied. I'm still doubting Thomas.
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> Here is a fascinating article on how we 'see' the photons that hit the retina, and how we integrate objects into an entire 3-D scene. And I'm still doubting AI can achieve this, and I am not talking about pixels in a camera, but an artificial brain that can see, identify patterns as we do, etc.-You didn't send the link, but is it the same as this one:-http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=reading-between-the-lines

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

http://www.physorg.com/news201939898.html
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> > > Didn't check that site this AM. Very intersting, but we still are dealing with macroscopic patterns while the underlying 100 billion or so neurons (all very microscopic) have many trained interconnecting axons as they learned. Not everyone learns the same, so even if macroscopic regions are mapped, the axon interconnections cannot be known, or copied. I'm still doubting Thomas.
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> > Here is a fascinating article on how we 'see' the photons that hit the retina, and how we integrate objects into an entire 3-D scene. And I'm still doubting AI can achieve this, and I am not talking about pixels in a camera, but an artificial brain that can see, identify patterns as we do, etc.
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> You didn't send the link, but is it the same as this one:
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> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=reading-between-the-lines-No, this one (please excuse the brain fart)-http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v467/n7311/abs/nature09322.html?lang=en

http://www.physorg.com/news201939898.html
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> > > > Didn't check that site this AM. Very intersting, but we still are dealing with macroscopic patterns while the underlying 100 billion or so neurons (all very microscopic) have many trained interconnecting axons as they learned. Not everyone learns the same, so even if macroscopic regions are mapped, the axon interconnections cannot be known, or copied. I'm still doubting Thomas.
> > > 
> > > Here is a fascinating article on how we 'see' the photons that hit the retina, and how we integrate objects into an entire 3-D scene. And I'm still doubting AI can achieve this, and I am not talking about pixels in a camera, but an artificial brain that can see, identify patterns as we do, etc.
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> > You didn't send the link, but is it the same as this one:
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> > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=reading-between-the-lines
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> No, this one (please excuse the brain fart)
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> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v467/n7311/abs/nature09322.html?lang=en-David, that article was about RNA in yeast...

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

David
> > > Here is a fascinating article on how we 'see' the photons that hit the retina, and how we integrate objects into an entire 3-D scene. And I'm still doubting AI can achieve this, and I am not talking about pixels in a camera, but an artificial brain that can see, identify patterns as we do, etc.-The key to this problem is having a way for the machine to be able to innovate abstractly. Google "Semantic Web" sometime. This is an effort to have the web self-organize via ontology. The goal is that say, if you search for piano strings, that the machines that make up the web will be able to infer a host of things about you. It's also to automate some of the tasks of information processing, so that say, in a batch of 500k records, it can intelligently identify trends. -As for more complex pattern finding, a group just last year built a machine that was able to correctly derive some of Newton's basic laws by observation alone. -http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090402143457.htm

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

http://www.physorg.com/news201939898.html
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> > > > > Didn't check that site this AM. Very intersting, but we still are dealing with macroscopic patterns while the underlying 100 billion or so neurons (all very microscopic) have many trained interconnecting axons as they learned. Not everyone learns the same, so even if macroscopic regions are mapped, the axon interconnections cannot be known, or copied. I'm still doubting Thomas.
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> > > > Here is a fascinating article on how we 'see' the photons that hit the retina, and how we integrate objects into an entire 3-D scene. And I'm still doubting AI can achieve this, and I am not talking about pixels in a camera, but an artificial brain that can see, identify patterns as we do, etc.
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> > > You didn't send the link, but is it the same as this one:
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> > > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=reading-between-the-lines
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> > No, this one (please excuse the brain fart)
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> > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v467/n7311/abs/nature09322.html?lang=en
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> David, that article was about RNA in yeast...-The reference was in an email I get from Nature, which I have deleted. I again clicked on the wrong story. Will search for it. It is a good one. Sorry.David


> > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v467/n7311/abs/nature09322.html?lang=en
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> David, that article was about RNA in yeast...-Very Sorry!! Article at end of CV: Seeing is Believing:-http://www.cnbc.cmu.edu/~behrmann/pubs.htm

http://www.physorg.com/news201939898.html-Finally a book that refutes most of this stuff. I can read MRI's a little and I know when you light up an area, it shows where activity is going on, but interpreting exact thoughts is horse excrement. General ideas,of course can get some recognition.-http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/10/AR2010091002678.html-You may have to join as an email member, but it is free!