More "miscellany" (General)

by David Turell @, Sunday, January 16, 2022, 16:01 (802 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: We have to back to the problem of human birth and the tight birth canal.

dhw: No we don’t. I have answered all your queries concerning the brain, and asked why you reject my logic. Now you want to switch the discussion to a different example!

When you jump back to intelligent cells making large design advances involving a brain encased in bone you invite my old challenge to your narrow views of the biology of major changes.


DAVID: To enlarge a new-sized brain, the DNA of the Mother and Father unite to decide the size of the new baby brain. Your intelligent neurons, bone cells, and all other cells involved in the new phenotypic changes must design and enact all the coordinated changes required. Really! God designs.

dhw: Every change requires the cooperation of the rest of the body. But you refuse to contemplate the possibility that your God may have designed the MECHANISM which enables cell communities to cooperate. Instead, he draws up a 3.8-billion-year-old programme for every change in life’s history (including brain and birth canal expansion), or he operates on the brains and birth canals of a whole bunch of individuals. (I hope he gives them an anaesthetic first). And yet you also believe he created a mechanism for brain complexification that would function without his intervention. If he can do it for that, why not for expansion of brain and of birth canal?

Complexification is a process performed by well-organized-in-advance designed neurons, and is of no comparison to the modification of many body parts by different cells requiring an overall design. Back we go to a God of your imagination who allows second hand design by cells He would have to give precise instructions.


Biofilms (Cellular intelligence)
DAVID: Appearing intelligent doesn't mean it is not all automatic functions, remember?

dhw: And it doesn’t mean they are NOT intelligent. Even you gave odds of 50/50. Remember? Now please tell us what attributes in addition to my own list you would consider necessary before you would agree that a life form is autonomously intelligent.

All automaticity looks intelligent. Your attributes are description of intelligence. nothing more. You can't tell what is really in a book by its cover blurbs.


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