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DAVID:Why can't you wait for research explanations? I do.dhw:

I have no alternative to waiting, which is why I sit on the fence. But you have already reached your fixed conclusions, and so you only “wait” in the hope that your theory will be confirmed, and in the meantime you reject any theory different from yours. You just can’t wait, can you?DAVID:

What is wrong with reaching conclusions. like your rigid cell intelligence conclusion?dhw: First you say you wait for research explanations, and then you ask what’s wrong with not waiting but forming a rigid conclusion! Mine is not a rigid conclusion. As I keep emphasizing, it’s a theory, though I must confess I find it far more convincing than Darwin’s random mutations, and your rigid conclusion that there has been a divine 3.8-billion-year-old programme or an individual divine dabble for every single life form, econiche, lifestyle, natural wonder etc. However, I agree that there is nothing wrong with reaching conclusions, except when those conclusions are manifestly self-contradictory. For instance, I cannot fault your reasons for believing in a designer, which are admirably logical. But your conclusions concerning his purpose and method are full of holes, as is your rejection of the theory of cellular intelligence (which even you rate at 50/50), and so of course I object. The whole purpose of this forum is to discuss the feasibility of theories concerning all the questions we humans have so far failed to answer!

Answered in today's Natures wonders. 50/50 is an appraisal of possibility, nothing more. Pick your side from what you see as proof. You have none, but I show cell automaticity on many days, no thought involved.

dhw: The rest of your post simply ignores all the arguments against your theories:

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It is your illogical thought constantly misinterpreting God's actions.

My anthropocentric theory is entirely comprehensible to clear thinking.

Stop bringing up your objections to my pure logic.dhw: Your clear thinking and pure logic have led you to advise me to ask God to explain your theories, because you have no idea why he would have done what you believe he has done.

The same weak distortion of my thoughts. Where I have no concept of God's choices is one single point: I have no idea why He chose to evolve each stage of His creations, but that is what His created history presents. You point to the possibility of a Genesis style God creating. Not current Hebrew scholar thought. God took His own time.

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