The Illusion of Time (The nature of a \'Creator\')
> > Your conclusion, Matt, that God can only know the past and present, and be entertained by the unpredictability of the future, had me smiling and nodding. That's if he's there, of course. > > You are presuming, of course, the religious description of God, and therefore you have given Him a past memory capacity. How do you know that? Perhaps He represents only current intellect from moment to moment. Then He would not know what is coming in the future, and that would explain all the blind alleys evolution has turned down, until He acts to correct the direction He wants.-Not having the capacity to view the past completely nullifies any argument FOR a creator or a designer. You can only improve on something if you know why it didn't work. What you describe here David, is shooting from the hip--and in no recorded example in history--has shooting from the hip resulted in something better that's lasted longer than a generation... -Further, not having a memory means that the intelligence would be required to be purely childlike; not what I would consider a UI to be. Only the long experience of multiple generations grants you the ability to make truly educated decisions. -I simply don't think a UI--if it exists--can be this way.-[EDIT]-While my post here describes a UI as "I would like it to be" I would stress that a UI w/o a memory is no UI at all. An infinite intelligence is of no use if you can't remember long enough to use it. -Using your own example, he can't "want" a direction without a plan, and you can't have a plan without having some kind of memory. Not to sound condescending--but you have to try harder than that!
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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"
\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"
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