Turns out Random is Better (Evolution)
> This might be considered semantic, but as you stated that you aren't a "great statistician" I feel I need to make this point. First, constraints make things more likely to happen, not less. I've yet to see a formal statistical treatment on the odds that you use all the time.-For statistics you'd have to read the books I've read or the quotes in my book.- In fact I read all the time and definitions of degrees of freedom include restraint as you say, but an article I just reviewed, from my interest in the Climategate scandal, was entited, "Degrees of Freedom at Copenhagan", and explained why the restraints made it fail. So I am continue to be confused by advanced mathematical terms.- > > The two pieces of evidence you provide simply state that evolution can happen incredibly quickly--there is no formal justification to make the kind of conclusion that you make here. You need to do more than state that the current explanation is incomplete, you need to detect the intelligence you claim, otherwise it's a "lazy induction." What other processes in the world do we accept claims with as little direct evidence?-The argument about chance is time vs. chance. Chance stumbles along slowly. Is there anough time to have all the mutations and other layers of the genome create what we now see in the tme allotted? My argument is: were did that speed come from, just as the Cambrian raises the same issue in spades?-As for proving the 'intelligence' behind all this, God is concealed. This is where the 'leap of faith' comes from. There will never be the proof you want. Only Adler's approach 'by a preponderance of evidence', which, by the intelligence concealment, means it is a positive proof that chance can't work in the time allotted and therefore, negatively, since design is the only other choice, there must be an intelligence doing its job somewhere. I think that won't satisfy you, and I don't think you will ever satisfy yourself. There will never be hard proof. I've accepted that as did Adler.
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xeno6696,
2010-02-10, 22:20
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2010-02-17, 14:44
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dhw,
2010-02-17, 22:38
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2010-02-23, 01:11
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2010-02-23, 03:24
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2010-02-23, 03:24
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2010-02-23, 01:11
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xeno6696,
2010-02-22, 22:59
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David Turell,
2010-02-22, 01:08
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xeno6696,
2010-02-21, 22:38
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David Turell,
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xeno6696,
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2010-02-25, 00:49
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2010-02-24, 23:10
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2010-02-22, 14:14
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2010-02-21, 19:44
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2010-02-21, 22:51
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2010-02-22, 00:45
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2010-02-21, 22:51
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xeno6696,
2010-02-21, 18:07
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David Turell,
2010-02-20, 22:01
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dhw,
2010-02-20, 12:38
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xeno6696,
2010-02-18, 01:25
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2010-02-17, 22:38
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