Atheism: How Certain is Certain? (Agnosticism)

by David Turell , Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 18:44 (6021 days ago) @ George Jelliss

George has stated "Having read David Warden's first post in this thread for the first time, I think my position, as an atheist, is similar to his, but perhaps even more strongly atheistic. The question for me, regarding any belief about anything, is where's the proof? To believe something is true, and even more to "believe in" it (i.e. with an emotional motivational commitment), I require overwhelming evidence, reinforced by personal experience......... I look upon this issue just the same as any other speculation, such as string theory or parallel universes or dark matter or theories that the world is run by shape-changing alien lizards. Until the evidence comes in I regard them with various degrees of scepticism." - George is absolutely correct. There are two steps. First scientific findings that can be fully accepted, not the string ruminations that go nowhere for 25 years. Also if one does not have a science background, those authors who describe science with an agenda, literally falsifing known material such as Kenneth Miller, must be understood and avoided. - Then the second step depends upon the individual. Does the evidence take one beyond a reasonable doubt? God is concealed, by definition. God will never be proven by science as a result. One has to be willing to accept a preponderance of evidence, and that willingness is the issue.