Extreme extremophiles: new extremes (Introduction)
DAVID's comment: These tough-ones are Archaea from the most ancient forms of first life. Perhaps life first appeared from critters like these. We know that the switch to a caustic oxygen metabolism appeared much later, and its attendant oxidation problems were also solved. Is this inventiveness built in to first life by design?
dhw: I must say I prefer “inventiveness” to a library of information and instructions, along with instructions on which instructions to choose at any given moment for the next X billion years.
DAVID: I hope you finally accept that life requires a mass of information in order to function. I certainly accept that instructions for minor adaptation exist.
dhw: I have never, ever, at any moment, at any time, in any comment said that life did not require a mass of information to function! And I was under the impression that you only “accepted” that inventiveness (not instructions) produced minor adaptations. And what I have never “accepted” is your theory that the first living cells contained and passed on ALL the information and ALL the instructions for every undabbled innovation, lifestyle and natural wonder in the history of life.
I accept your statement as clarifying your position. As for starting information as life began, i'm still waiting for Behe's book to appear on whether advancements are due to deletion of code.
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