Pigliucci Challenges Randomness (Religion)
MATT: If we think of the English language as an example, think of how much complexity surrounds such a very simple structure. [...] A Shakespearean play might be amazingly complex, but it is ultimately nothing less than repetitions of the same basic informational structure over and over again. How is life any different?-You have put this question to David, and perhaps he will have a different answer, but my own is that this seems quite a good analogy. However, maybe I'm missing something obvious, because in my view it supports David's thesis in two ways: 1) The so-called "simple" structures that form the basis of language had to be devised by intelligent minds. ("Simplicity" is a relative term. Nothing could be simpler than the wheel, but whoever invented it was a genius!) 2) The amazing complexity of a Shakespeare play, while based on those simple structures, again could not have been created without the workings of an intelligent mind.-If, then, you take language as being analogous to life, the building blocks may be simple, but putting them together to create a functioning system requires conscious intelligence. This is not, however, an argument against evolution. It's an argument against materialist abiogenesis.- *** Thank you for your very helpful explanation of Pigliucci's line of thought. I'll have to get back to this next time round.
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xeno6696,
2010-01-18, 01:57
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2010-01-18, 16:02
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2010-01-18, 18:11
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2010-01-20, 13:00
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2010-01-23, 19:44
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2010-01-24, 12:08
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2010-01-23, 19:44
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2010-01-20, 15:51
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2010-01-20, 13:00
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2010-01-18, 18:11
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2010-01-18, 16:08
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2010-01-20, 00:28
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2010-01-20, 00:38
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dhw,
2010-01-21, 15:37
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2010-01-21, 18:15
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2010-01-21, 18:15
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David Turell,
2010-01-20, 00:38
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xeno6696,
2010-01-20, 00:28
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David Turell,
2010-01-18, 16:02