Turtle history: no shell fossil (Introduction)
DAVID: You always point on any statement that suggests I left out God. I feel God developed turtles as part of the balance of nature. Whatever forebear they came from, the changes required were much less than for whales, but turtles lead a problematic land life due to their armored phenotype. Sea turtles seem to handle it better. Either way it is a cumbersome body style.
dhw: No problem. Thank you for dropping your statement that they are “out of nowhere” and for correcting your wondering "why they bothered to develop" to wondering why God bothered to develop them. You could ask the same about pointy eggs and weaverbird nests etc. etc. The rest of your comment is fine with me but has nothing to do with what I wrote.
Out of nowhere implies the lack of an evolutionary trail. There might not be one, if God chose to invent without evolving.
Complete thread:
- Turtle history -
David Turell,
2012-11-19, 20:28
- Turtle history:genetics -
David Turell,
2013-04-29, 15:49
- Turtle history:origin of shell -
David Turell,
2013-07-09, 15:42
- Turtle history: neck retraction -
David Turell,
2017-03-06, 18:22
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
David Turell,
2018-08-23, 18:40
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
dhw,
2018-08-24, 11:45
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
David Turell,
2018-08-24, 23:01
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
dhw,
2018-08-25, 11:09
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
David Turell,
2018-08-25, 18:15
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
dhw,
2018-08-26, 08:50
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
David Turell,
2018-08-26, 15:39
- Turtle history: a review of aquatic species -
David Turell,
2024-03-14, 17:31
- Turtle history: leatherback migrations - David Turell, 2024-03-16, 18:23
- Turtle history: a review of aquatic species -
David Turell,
2024-03-14, 17:31
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
David Turell,
2018-08-26, 15:39
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
dhw,
2018-08-26, 08:50
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
David Turell,
2018-08-25, 18:15
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
dhw,
2018-08-25, 11:09
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
David Turell,
2018-08-24, 23:01
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
dhw,
2018-08-24, 11:45
- Turtle history: no shell fossil -
David Turell,
2018-08-23, 18:40
- Turtle history: neck retraction -
David Turell,
2017-03-06, 18:22
- Turtle history:origin of shell -
David Turell,
2013-07-09, 15:42
- Turtle history:genetics -
David Turell,
2013-04-29, 15:49