Paradise (Where is it now?)
Both BBella and dhw claim that the existence or not of an afterlife is a 50:50% possibility. On what grounds? I would say it is pretty close to 0:100% with a very small error bar. All mental phenomena can be adequately explained in terms of chemistry and physics. The chances of there being some as yet undetected ghost-or-spirit-field interacting in some way with matter is negligible. No coherent theory of its working has ever been put forward. -dhw wants to know what "real" knowledge is. It is knowledge based on evidence. Reproducible, verifiable evidence. -dhw claims that "Just about every emotion we feel is subjective and entails some of the most profound realities of our existence."-Such emotions may be described as personal but they are not subjective, they are real. Evidence for their existence in available, from brain-scans and observation of behaviour for example, as well as personal testimony. Subjectivity lies in the interpretation of experiences in terms that will suit ones wishes or ones expectations. -dhw seems to think that these real experiences are "... realities which science cannot cover." Far from it. It's just that dhw has a bit of a down on science, possibly from some bad experience with a science teacher at school?-dhw claims that: "... "paranormal" perceptions are unquestionably real to many who experience them, and in some cases even provide information supported by independent observers."-I agree they may be real experiences, although many have been shown to be fraudulent claims, but I know of no cases where the supposed information cannot be explained to have arisen by other means. If paranormal phenomena are real, surely it is possible to bring about far more convincing demonstrations than those practiced by spiritualists!
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GPJ
Complete thread:
- Paradise -
George Jelliss,
2009-12-30, 15:05
- Paradise - xeno6696, 2009-12-30, 22:15
- Paradise -
dhw,
2009-12-31, 15:30
- Paradise -
xeno6696,
2009-12-31, 16:42
- Paradise - David Turell, 2009-12-31, 20:08
- Paradise - BBella, 2009-12-31, 21:59
- Paradise -
xeno6696,
2009-12-31, 16:42