Energy explained, again (Introduction)

by dhw, Wednesday, March 22, 2017, 12:42 (2803 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: QUOTE: "'There is no physical “essence” of energy, and no such thing as “pure energy”. Energy is always carried by something, usually in the form of movement.”
This caught my eye, since you have suggested that your God is “pure energy”, and prior to his creation of the universe, there was nothing except conscious “pure energy”. The article is not concerned with metaphysics, but it does raise the issue of definition in relation to your idea of the first cause. If energy is always “carried by something”, I’m not sure how it can actually exist without matter.

DAVID: We are trapped by our own confused view of quantum mechanics. The particles which contain the energy are waves and fields, all smudged out until measured as points of energy. Matter is energy on the outside and mind is energy on the inside to quote my philosophy professor again, who was a doctor of divinity. God is pure mind, no particles.
dhw: Sweet, but did your philosophy professor explain how you can have an inside without an outside?

DAVID: Sweet, but one of the major insights I ever received! It forms one leg of my theology. I'll ask you, have you ever seen he outside of your consciousness?

That is the essence of the problem. Materialists think that matter is the outside of consciousness – in humans, the brain. Have you ever seen consciousness that is not housed by materials?