Lost marbles (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, October 24, 2009, 02:13 (5508 days ago) @ xeno6696


> When you take an argument that says "Life is so complex, it must have been designed," you make a series of assumptions to unanswered philosophical questions.-I don't know what the 'unanswered questions'are. What are they? 
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> First and foremost, you have to assume that a designer exists. You HAVE to assume it because there is no way to independently verify the existence of a designer.-I still stick to my simplistic belief I have stated before. If we find that initial true life is so complex,then the odds against its appearance will become so enormous that chance is negated, and we will have a default form of proof. Absolulte proof is impossible.
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> Secondly, you make an assumption that life is complex. Most things, when understood--turn out to be pretty easy to understand. You make an assumption that we'll never be able to understand life, and by extension use this as a reason to imply design. In these terms, such an implication is unwarranted.-If you are referring to origin of life as true living one-celled organisms it will be extremely complex. If you are referring to a non-living energy producing feed-back loop that is an antecedent to true life, then you may be correct. It may be surprisingly simple, but that isn't life as we see it in the simplest forms. Again, getting from a simple system for energy to true life will be an extremely complex process. 
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> Thirdly, you make an assumption that the creator is natural. -No I think he is supernatural. And finally, as I read George and you, Matt, I think you both have an element of philosophic truth.