Teleology & evolution: Vocal cord development (Introduction)
dhw: Firstly, you insist that your God dabbled or preprogrammed all the different vocal tracts and all the different phenotypic alterations that resulted in different species of hominin, although his purpose was to produce sapiens. Why do you think he did so, instead of going straight to sapiens if sapiens was his purpose?
Answered many times before: God uses the evolutionary method for progress. Only religions use the Garden of Eden.
dhw: You believe the ability to make new sounds led to thought, whereas I propose that thought led to the ability to make new sounds. Speech before thought, or thought before speech? I know which one I consider more logical.
Many thoughtful folks I read point out that we think in words which is what expands our ability to conceptualize and develop abstract thought. Speech before deep thought.
Xxxxxdhw: Thank you for the extremely interesting article on big brain evolution, which really does expand our discussion and raises important questions relating to all the above. I will get back to you on this.
I was delighted to discover that article. Thank you.
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