\"Bleached Faith\" (Religion)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Thursday, October 08, 2009, 18:39 (5319 days ago) @ David Turell

I look at the world he/she/it may have created, and I see random suffering everywhere. I can't reconcile this to benevolence. I can, however, associate it with Deism, and so if I did believe in some kind of designer, it would probably be a deistic one. I would see no point, however, in worshipping such a God.
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> > You... sort of missed my mark. Science and religion aren't compatible but complimentary. They both describe parts of the human experience; religion, that esoteric and immeasurable part of ourselves that defies outside attempts to understand it, and the outer, exoteric, material world by science. At the center, lies man.
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> One of my most interesting authors, I've mentioned before, Gerald Schroeder, 40 years a Ph.D. particle physics researcher, 30+ years an Old Test. studies in the most ancient form of Hebrew, has a new book: "God, According to God: A Physicist Proves We've Been Wrong About God All Along". He has reinterpreted the OT to show a form of Jewish Process Theology. I'm not finshed with it, but we have the right to argue with Him, He has the right to change his mind. He actually studies His created beings and changes his approach. He recognizes that we have free will and make bad choices. That makes him Theistic, not quite all-knowing, but still all-powerful. It gets rid of the problem of evil since we are free to be evil. He set evolutin in motion, but stepped in to kill off the dinosaurs with an asteroid. He is not a strict fundamentalist: Noah's flood was Mesopotamian.
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> I don't know if either of you can accept this approach, but he is trying to combine physics and Torah. Of course, his co-religionist, Stephen Jay Gould felt science and religion were two separate magesteria and should be two views of our reality.-David, I thought you didn't like Process Theology? I've said for some time here that I thought Process arguments were one of the best theological responses to science. Process theologians modify their theology so that it reconciles what has been discovered in science instead of clinging to old dogmas. -I actually didn't know that my view was shared by Gould. I know it's not necessarily unique, though most people I've met are much more exclusionary towards the materialistic and non-materialistic ends of the spectrum.

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"