Extinctions: Massive eruptions (Introduction)
DAVID: We don't know if the Chicxulub asteroid was God's doing or not. The 'bad luck' quote is in the title of David Raup's highly regarded book. What seems to be true is that with each giant extinction, evolution advanced to more complex forms. If God is at work the process is working. Humans are here. Not at all unpredictable. > > dhw: You obviously share Raup's view that most extinctions are bad luck, since you have stated it yourself. Bad luck and good luck are synonymous with chance. This means your God either couldn't or didn't want to control the environment, except for the occasional dabble. -Raup's 'bad luck' is his way of saying that sudden environmental changes caused extinctions. My interpretation and his is that this means the life that became extinct couldn't adapt fast enough to survive, no more. It does not imply God hurled Chicxulub or not. He may have.-> dhw: And if he couldn't or didn't control the environment, “most” of the consequences would also have been unpredictable (part of the great entertainment, perhaps). As for humans, leaving aside the question of who or what would have been capable of making predictions, I thought your whole “difference” campaign was based on your belief that they were NOT predictable, and it needed some really special dabbling from your God to produce them.-You are off on a tangent. Evolution shows us there was a strong drive to create humans out of apes. Their physical and mental capacities are different in kind from apes, and in this portion of known evolutionary history extinctions played no role unless one looks back 60+ million years ago to Chicxulub and goodbye dinos.
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David Turell,
2011-02-03, 23:53
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2011-02-07, 01:08
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2011-02-07, 15:04
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2011-02-09, 12:59
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2011-02-09, 14:46
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2011-02-10, 15:14
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2011-02-11, 08:10
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2011-09-16, 21:46
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2011-11-18, 15:50
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2015-08-29, 00:16
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2016-08-30, 19:01
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2016-08-29, 12:30
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David Turell,
2016-08-29, 00:36
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2016-08-28, 16:04
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David Turell,
2016-08-27, 21:47
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dhw,
2016-08-27, 07:26
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David Turell,
2016-08-26, 15:20
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dhw,
2016-08-26, 11:54
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David Turell,
2016-08-26, 00:50
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dhw,
2016-08-25, 21:08
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dhw,
2015-08-29, 09:03
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David Turell,
2015-08-29, 00:16
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David Turell,
2011-11-18, 15:50
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
David Turell,
2011-09-16, 21:46
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
dhw,
2011-02-11, 08:10
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
David Turell,
2011-02-10, 15:14
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
dhw,
2011-02-10, 11:31
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
David Turell,
2011-02-09, 14:46
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
dhw,
2011-02-09, 12:59
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
David Turell,
2011-02-09, 19:50
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
dhw,
2011-02-10, 11:34
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup - David Turell, 2011-02-10, 14:45
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
dhw,
2011-02-10, 11:34
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
David Turell,
2011-02-07, 15:04
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
xeno6696,
2011-02-07, 11:41
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
David Turell,
2011-02-07, 04:22
- Extinctions: Bad Genes or Bad Luck? A nod to D. Raup -
xeno6696,
2011-02-07, 01:08