For Bbella: possible alien contact (Introduction)

by David Turell , Friday, June 17, 2016, 18:29 (3080 days ago) @ David Turell

We are limited by the speed of light in receiving or making alien contact. Current estimates are perhaps in 1,500 years:-http://phys.org/news/2016-06-itll-years-aliens-contact.html-
"If you're expecting to hear from aliens from across the universe, it could be a while. -"Deconstructing the Fermi paradox and pairing it with the mediocrity principle into a fresh equation, Cornell astronomers say extraterrestrials likely won't phone home - or Earth - for 1,500 years.-***-"It's possible to hear any time at all, but it becomes likely we will have heard around 1,500 years from now," said Solomonides. "Until then, it is possible that we appear to be alone - even if we are not. But if we stop listening or looking, we may miss the signals. So we should keep looking."-"The Fermi paradox says billions of Earthlike planets exist in our galaxy, yet no aliens have contacted or visited us. Thus the paradox: the cosmos teems with possibility. The mediocrity principle - originated by 16th-century mathematician Copernicus - says Earth's physical attributes are not unique, as natural processes are likely common throughout the cosmos, and therefore aliens won't discover us for a while.-"Hunting for extraterrestrials means sending out signals like television broadcasts, for example. As Earth's electronic ambassador, TV and radio signals are sent into space as a byproduct of broadcasting. These signals have been traveling from Earth for 80 years at the speed of light. For aliens receiving these transmissions, they would likely be indecipherable, said Solomonides, as the extraterrestrials would need to decode light waves into sounds, then parse 3,000 human languages to grasp the message.-"Nonetheless, Earth's broadcast signals have reached every star within about 80 light years from the sun - about 8,531 stars and 3,555 Earthlike planets, as our Milky Way galaxy alone contains 200 billion stars.-"Even our mundane, typical spiral galaxy - not exceptionally large compared to other galaxies - is vast beyond imagination," said Solomonides. "Those numbers are what make the Fermi Paradox so counterintuitive. We have reached so many stars and planets, surely we should have reached somebody by now, and in turn been reached … this demonstrates why we appear to be alone."-"Combining the equations for the Fermi paradox and the mediocrity principle, the authors suggests Earth might hear from an alien civilization when approximately half of the Milky Way Galaxy has been signaled in about 1,500 years. "This is not to say that we must be reached by then or else we are, in fact, alone. We simply claim that it is somewhat unlikely that we will not hear anything before that time," Solomonides said.-***-"'We are on the third planet around a tediously boring star surrounded by other completely normal stars about two-thirds of the way along one of several arms of a remarkably average spiral galaxy. The mediocrity principle is the idea that because we are not in any special location in the universe, we should not be anything special in the universe.'" -Comment: Unless several generations of aliens survived on a space ship, assuming they have the same lifespan, no one has visited us. On the other hand, if they had lifespans as in the Old Testament, the aliens might have gotten here from the planets within the 80 year range now contacted. Our galaxy is not giant, but it is about 100,000 light years across, but may be as much as 180,000 lys. We are on the second spiral arm about 2/3rds of the way out from the center, a quiet area which is good for us, but also puts us more central so the possible travel distances are less than the diameter.-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carina%E2%80%93Sagittarius_Arm