Universal Intelligence (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Sunday, September 20, 2009, 03:34 (5542 days ago) @ George Jelliss

dhw (in the 'Revise this' thread) wrote; "At least we know from the outset that the question of how a universal intelligence got here can't possibly be answered, because if it exists, it's on an entirely different plane from us, and we're simply not equipped to investigate it."
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> This is just outright mysticism, verging on theosophical higher planes nonsense. This is the god who "works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform". DT wrote something similar recently that I meant to pick up on.
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> The idea of a universal intelligence, i.e. a mind permeating or coexistent with the universe, and of which our minds are a part or are in some way related to, is a pure fantasy for which there is no scientific evidence. But I see no reason why the existence of such a thing should not be possible of investigation. The only trouble is that it is so vague.
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> Presumably if a "designer" exists, this is what it would be. But then how does its carry out its designing? Does it think "let there be light" and there is? If it is on a higher plane where it cannot be investigated by us worms, what is the point of such a hypothesis? Can its existence even be proved?-This directly falls in line with my general thinking, "Designer? There might be; but if we cannot study it, then why should we? Why base our thoughts on the unthinkable?"

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