Did you see? (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by BBella @, Saturday, September 19, 2009, 02:55 (5543 days ago)

Did anyone see George Smoot, the astrophysicist that won the Nobel Prize in Physics, for "helping cement the big-bang theory of the universe using the Cosmic Background Explorer Satellite (COBE)," on the prime time show tonight, Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader?-While reading his info on Wikpedia I came across this quote of his; "-after the COBE research team announced on 23 April 1992 that the satellite [COBE] had detected tiny fluctuations in the CMB, a breakthrough in the study of the early universe. The observations were "evidence for the birth of the universe" and Smoot said on the importance of his discovery that "If you're religious, it's like looking at God."-I'm not really understanding exactly what it was he saw that he believes was "like looking at God?" Anyone?-It was amazing how fast someone added this new feat of Smoots on Wikipedia, while I was reading it! -Oh, and by the way, he won the million! Only the second person to do so. So, yes, he is smarter than a fifth grader...so glad to hear it!!!

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by David Turell @, Saturday, September 19, 2009, 14:03 (5543 days ago) @ BBella

While reading his info on Wikpedia I came across this quote of his; "-after the COBE research team announced on 23 April 1992 that the satellite [COBE] had detected tiny fluctuations in the CMB, a breakthrough in the study of the early universe. The observations were "evidence for the birth of the universe" and Smoot said on the importance of his discovery that "If you're religious, it's like looking at God."
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> I'm not really understanding exactly what it was he saw that he believes was "like looking at God?" Anyone?
> -Your explanation lies in Alan Guth's book, The Inflationary Universe, 1997. The inflation equations predicted how the curves would look from the COBE results in the first studies of the background radiation, the afterglow of the Big Bang, about 10^-35 second after the Bang. The actual results and the predictions had a close enough fit to be a very exiting result. Smoot and Guth worked together. This study is looking at a very close aftermath of the Big Bang. There is no study BEFORE the Bang, just immediately AFTER. The quote simply means, if one believes in that God created the universe thru a Big Bang, then the results were like looking at God.

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by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Sunday, September 20, 2009, 04:03 (5542 days ago) @ BBella

While reading his info on Wikpedia I came across this quote of his; "-after the COBE research team announced on 23 April 1992 that the satellite [COBE] had detected tiny fluctuations in the CMB, a breakthrough in the study of the early universe. The observations were "evidence for the birth of the universe" and Smoot said on the importance of his discovery that "If you're religious, it's like looking at God."
> -To a Cosmologist, seeing the beginning of the universe is witnessing the act of creation itself. It would be like Adam being present at the creation of of the heavens and the earth. Verification that the big-bang actually happened verified that the known universe indeed has a start-date, and nullified one of the only things that Einstein got wrong: the universe is static.

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

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by David Turell @, Sunday, September 20, 2009, 06:07 (5542 days ago) @ xeno6696

Verification that the big-bang actually happened verified that the known universe indeed has a start-date, and nullified one of the only things that Einstein got wrong: the universe is static.-Einstein simply accepted what every one thought. The Milky Way was the entire universe. Once Hubble at Palomar found othr galaxies and the red shift, it was obvious that the universe was not static. Einstein's biggest problem was handling the cosmologic constant and adjusting it when he found out about expansion.

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by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Sunday, September 20, 2009, 07:31 (5542 days ago) @ David Turell

Verification that the big-bang actually happened verified that the known universe indeed has a start-date, and nullified one of the only things that Einstein got wrong: the universe is static.
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> Einstein simply accepted what every one thought. The Milky Way was the entire universe. Once Hubble at Palomar found othr galaxies and the red shift, it was obvious that the universe was not static. Einstein's biggest problem was handling the cosmologic constant and adjusting it when he found out about expansion.-Not precisely: He worked hard revising the equations behind general relativity because he didn't like the implications of their being a discrete beginning. It's true that a static universe was the predominant paradigm, but he didn't abandon that paradigm until it was otherwise conclusive. -Of note, the constant is only 10% off in explaining the theoretical construct of Dark Energy.

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"

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