Evidence: We are not alone (Introduction)
by BBella 
, Friday, January 02, 2015, 05:01 (3613 days ago)
There is no way for me to explain the vast evidence of older more advanced civilizations that we have here on Earth or the evidence of very old artifacts that lend to the idea that this advanced civilization may have created us. But I can state a few personal experiences of how I came to believe in their possibility. Not that I am trying to convince anyone, since I cannot say 100% this possibility is fact and so would not want to convince anyone for even the slight possibility I am wrong. I believe the Truth for each of us will always be personal and will always fit our own experiences within each of our lives and is the way it should be and is the way it is.-Before I became ill I was fully Christian in my belief and heart. When I became ill and lost my will to live, I had an experience that opened my (in the box) mind. I had never considered anything outside the biblical scriptures in my life. But after this experience, I began having dreams and experiences that were outside my and the christian understanding that I had at the time. Those experiences and dreams led me to question, or better said, to open my mind to expanded possibilities. I had always been known to fixate on a new idea and research it to it's nth degree with whatever information available to me. That was before my illness. But during my illness I had no way to move, study or research. So I just opened my mind and allowed what was before me to guide me, just by my observance alone, since, at that time, I had no other recourse.-Through observance alone, it seemed for me, synchronicity began to play a big role in my life it had not before. Information I had no prior knowledge of before this time began to show up, one right after another. People I had close relationships with for many years prior to this time, suddenly began to tell me strange stories. One close cousin confided to me her experience with alien abduction (she was a very reliable Christian source that floored me with what happened to her: I've told this story before) and then, not too long after, a friend tells me, out of the blue, a similar story. Two different people in two different cultures and backgrounds, that did not know each other. Then a friend from Australia, tells me about her Aboriginal background and stories handed down from long ago about the origins of mankind. Then, again, I am told from a family friend, in passing, that he has Hopi bloodlines, and tells me their belief in man's origins. All these people confide in me information at separate times, all similar stories. All relate to me about a race of beings that created us. Through my own dreams, first, then experience's I personally began to have, and then all this information opens to me in a short period of time. Then is when I began to open my mind to the Ancient Alien theory, when I later hear about it. -Hundreds of thousands of people report seeing UFO's. Thousands report abductions. Many artifacts left without explanation. Different, very old cultures around the globe have similar stories of the origin of mankind from the Star People. It's hard for me to believe these are all coincidences or mental hallucinations of all these people. No more than I can believe those that have NDE's (three people that experienced NDE's are in my own family) are experiencing mental tricks of the mind. There are too many reports of both. Too many to be called bunk, unless you choose to ignore them and call them what you will. For me, I am open to the possibility that what people claim to hear and see with their own eyes is just exactly what it is. Sometimes things are just exactly as they seem - at least possibly.
Evidence: We are not alone
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Friday, January 02, 2015, 09:39 (3613 days ago) @ BBella
Bella: I believe the Truth for each of us will always be personal and will always fit our own experiences within each of our lives and is the way it should be and is the way it is. > -Truth is truth, but reality, now that is subjective.- >Bella: So I just opened my mind and allowed what was before me to guide me, just by my observance alone, since, at that time, I had no other recourse. > -Even as a christian, this happens to me on a regular basis. New connections and realizations that come out of nowhere. It's really quite interesting. ->Bella: Through observance alone, it seemed for me, synchronicity began to play a big role in my life it had not before. Information I had no prior knowledge of before this time began to show up, one right after another. People I had close relationships with for many years prior to this time, suddenly began to tell me strange stories. > -I've had this experience quite often as well. It is my belief that we are all connected in some way. Odd as it may seem, I do not find this to be at odds at all with the Christian beliefs.->Bella: Hundreds of thousands of people report seeing UFO's. Thousands report abductions. Many artifacts left without explanation. Different, very old cultures around the globe have similar stories of the origin of mankind from the Star People. It's hard for me to believe these are all coincidences or mental hallucinations of all these people. No more than I can believe those that have NDE's (three people that experienced NDE's are in my own family) are experiencing mental tricks of the mind. There are too many reports of both. Too many to be called bunk, unless you choose to ignore them and call them what you will. For me, I am open to the possibility that what people claim to hear and see with their own eyes is just exactly what it is. Sometimes things are just exactly as they seem - at least possibly.- Just to play devil's advocate for a moment, how is the idea of "the origin of mankind from the Star People" different than the creation story of the bible? After all the bible refers to angels as 'stars' many times. Perhaps 'Star People', shining ones, or any other number of similar names are all referencing spirit creatures as opposed to aliens from a distant planet. The Bible also references them interacting with humans on another occasions, even breeding with them at one point.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Evidence: We are not alone
by BBella , Saturday, January 03, 2015, 06:05 (3612 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
Just to play devil's advocate for a moment, how is the idea of "the origin of mankind from the Star People" different than the creation story of the bible? -It's not that different at all. Many cultures have their stories, written and unwritten, that tell of a first created couple that the human race is descended from. ->After all the bible refers to angels as 'stars' many times. Perhaps 'Star People', shining ones, or any other number of similar names are all referencing spirit creatures as opposed to aliens from a distant planet. -I can see how from humanities perspective back then and even now, they would seem as God's to us.->The Bible also references them interacting with humans on another occasions, even breeding with them at one point.-The Bible and other older books and cultures have similar stories of these beings coming down from the sky and breeding with female humans as well. For me, an advanced race of beings from either another planet, dimension or time is just makes more sense for me. Maybe there is a fine line between both ideas. So fine, that in some sense, there may be no difference between them whatsoever but what they are called. -How do you think the two ideas differ - besides what they are called God/s-Aliens?
Evidence: We are not alone
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Saturday, January 03, 2015, 09:55 (3612 days ago) @ BBella
How do you think the two ideas differ - besides what they are called God/s-Aliens?-I think the biggest difference is not in the creatures themselves, or the stories, but rather in our interpretation of them. When most people think "Alien" they think of creatures from light years away, and perhaps unbelievable strange, but they are almost always solid, physical creatures based on physical realities and working with advanced technology. -This is different in kind than the concept of spirit creatures, which live on a different plane of existence entirely, one that either borders, or overlaps to some extent, our own. These spirit creatures were not shown as being technologically advanced so much as they were as having a more direct connection with the fundamental forces of physics/nature. Angels, and even god to an extent, are generally presented as being both extremely primal in an elemental sense and extremely sophisticated in an intellectual sense at the same time, as if they have no need for technology as such because their advancement was internal whereas ours has been external. -On the topic of out of place artifacts (OOP's), I think that the simplest explanation is that previous earth cultures were more advanced. The irony of ironies is that most people do not see the same type of progression within our own culture and say that there would be evidence. Yet, in our own society, we have made a push to make everything bio-degradebale and reduce/eliminate our impact on the environment. So if humanity were to disappear, it would not take more than a couple of centuries to eradicate all traces of us. Ancient civilizations started using technologies like rammed earth construction, which we forego and are now coming back to as natural resources and economic meltdowns become more clearly imminent. Basically, I think there is a cyclical pattern to human development, and that we are reaching the same critical mass that our ancestors were before they were cut off.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
To Tony: Evidence: We are not alone
by BBella , Friday, February 06, 2015, 08:21 (3578 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
How do you think the two ideas differ - besides what they are called God/s-Aliens? > > I think the biggest difference is not in the creatures themselves, or the stories, but rather in our interpretation of them. When most people think "Alien" they think of creatures from light years away, and perhaps unbelievable strange, but they are almost always solid, physical creatures based on physical realities and working with advanced technology. > > This is different in kind than the concept of spirit creatures, which live on a different plane of existence entirely, one that either borders, or overlaps to some extent, our own. These spirit creatures were not shown as being technologically advanced so much as they were as having a more direct connection with the fundamental forces of physics/nature. Angels, and even god to an extent, are generally presented as being both extremely primal in an elemental sense and extremely sophisticated in an intellectual sense at the same time, as if they have no need for technology as such because their advancement was internal whereas ours has been external. > > On the topic of out of place artifacts (OOP's), I think that the simplest explanation is that previous earth cultures were more advanced. The irony of ironies is that most people do not see the same type of progression within our own culture and say that there would be evidence. Yet, in our own society, we have made a push to make everything bio-degradebale and reduce/eliminate our impact on the environment. So if humanity were to disappear, it would not take more than a couple of centuries to eradicate all traces of us. Ancient civilizations started using technologies like rammed earth construction, which we forego and are now coming back to as natural resources and economic meltdowns become more clearly imminent. Basically, I think there is a cyclical pattern to human development, and that we are reaching the same critical mass that our ancestors were before they were cut off.-Tony,-I just wanted you to know I haven't forgotten your reply and truly appreciate the level of integrity at which you replied to my thoughts on these things. I've been ruminating a lot on your info above and have some questions forming which I hope to be able to take time soon to articulate and write down along these lines. -Taking care of my parents (88 & 81) in these last months has my mind sometimes feeling it's turning to mush so that full sentences that make sense doesn't seem readily available.
Evidence: We are not alone
by BBella , Monday, March 16, 2015, 05:22 (3540 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
How do you think the two ideas differ - besides what they are called God/s-Aliens? > > I think the biggest difference is not in the creatures themselves, or the stories, but rather in our interpretation of them. When most people think "Alien" they think of creatures from light years away, and perhaps unbelievable strange, but they are almost always solid, physical creatures based on physical realities and working with advanced technology. -So, are you saying you believe there are aliens that inhabit the physical realm? > > This is different in kind than the concept of spirit creatures, which live on a different plane of existence entirely, one that either borders, or overlaps to some extent, our own. These spirit creatures were not shown as being technologically advanced so much as they were as having a more direct connection with the fundamental forces of physics/nature. Angels, and even god to an extent, are generally presented as being both extremely primal in an elemental sense and extremely sophisticated in an intellectual sense at the same time, as if they have no need for technology as such because their advancement was internal whereas ours has been external. > -The scriptures speaks of the spirit that is in man: Is it different than these spirit creatures that exist on a different plane? If so, what is their difference's and why is the word spirit used for both in the scriptures?
Evidence: We are not alone
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Monday, March 16, 2015, 20:20 (3539 days ago) @ BBella
How do you think the two ideas differ - besides what they are called God/s-Aliens? > > > >Tony: I think the biggest difference is not in the creatures themselves, or the stories, but rather in our interpretation of them. When most people think "Alien" they think of creatures from light years away, and perhaps unbelievable strange, but they are almost always solid, physical creatures based on physical realities and working with advanced technology. > > Bella: So, are you saying you believe there are aliens that inhabit the physical realm?-I believe that there are spirits and that they "live on a different plane of existence entirely, one that either borders, or overlaps to some extent, our own."-> > > >Tony: This is different in kind than the concept of spirit creatures, which live on a different plane of existence entirely, one that either borders, or overlaps to some extent, our own. These spirit creatures were not shown as being technologically advanced so much as they were as having a more direct connection with the fundamental forces of physics/nature. Angels, and even god to an extent, are generally presented as being both extremely primal in an elemental sense and extremely sophisticated in an intellectual sense at the same time, as if they have no need for technology as such because their advancement was internal whereas ours has been external. > > > >Bella: The scriptures speaks of the spirit that is in man: Is it different than these spirit creatures that exist on a different plane? If so, what is their difference's and why is the word spirit used for both in the scriptures?-Well, let's start by establishing the biblical perspective. Genesis talks about the spririt (wind/breath/active force) of God moving about the waters. Then it talks about God 'breathing' life into man, and later mentions that this 'spirit' (wind/breath/active force) returns to God at death. Angel literally means envoy or messenger and may denote more in terms of function than form. Also, both Angels and Demons (same type of entity, just different sides of the war) are referred to as 'spirits' as well as "powers" or "powerful ones". I think that the reason that "spirit" is used as both the description for Angels/Demons and as the name for the energy within man is that, in both cases, they are directly created from, or part of, God's energy, or his active force. Another titular distinction given between them is "sons of God" versus "sons of man".
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Evidence: We are not alone
by David Turell , Saturday, January 03, 2015, 18:48 (3611 days ago) @ BBella
> Bbella: The Bible and other older books and cultures have similar stories of these beings coming down from the sky and breeding with female humans as well. For me, an advanced race of beings from either another planet, dimension or time is just makes more sense for me. Maybe there is a fine line between both ideas. So fine, that in some sense, there may be no difference between them whatsoever but what they are called. > > Bbella: How do you think the two ideas differ - besides what they are called God/s-Aliens?-Ancient civilizations its seems always had multiple gods to fit the various natural phenomena they observed. Lightning had to have its god, as its cause was a misunderstood event. And so with everything else in nature. As humans became more sophisticated in their thinking finally monotheistic theologies developed at least in the Western World. For me your thinking seems to start at the level of development when humans of some form or place are present. That does not explain why humans are present at all. I think the development of a philosophy has to start at the famous question, 'why is there anything?' and come with a cohesive theory that carries through, as best it can, to the present reality. With that approach, I can't fit aliens into my thinking, but I see similar patterns of similar imaginations in the ancient civilizations.
Evidence: We are not alone
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Saturday, January 03, 2015, 19:07 (3611 days ago) @ David Turell
David: Ancient civilizations its seems always had multiple gods to fit the various natural phenomena they observed. Lightning had to have its god, as its cause was a misunderstood event. And so with everything else in nature. As humans became more sophisticated in their thinking finally monotheistic theologies developed at least in the Western World. For me your thinking seems to start at the level of development when humans of some form or place are present. That does not explain why humans are present at all. I think the development of a philosophy has to start at the famous question, 'why is there anything?' and come with a cohesive theory that carries through, as best it can, to the present reality. With that approach, I can't fit aliens into my thinking, but I see similar patterns of similar imaginations in the ancient civilizations.-Why is it always the assumption that these ancient civilizations were backwards, ignorant, and unsophisticated? -http://listverse.com/2013/04/12/10-mysteries-that-hint-at-forgotten-advanced-civilizations/-For a bunch of backwater hillbillies they sure put us 'sophisticated' sorts to shame.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Evidence: We are not alone
by David Turell , Saturday, January 03, 2015, 19:16 (3611 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
> tony: Why is it always the assumption that these ancient civilizations were backwards, ignorant, and unsophisticated? > > http://listverse.com/2013/04/12/10-mysteries-that-hint-at-forgotten-advanced-civilizati... > For a bunch of backwater hillbillies they sure put us 'sophisticated' sorts to shame.-I've been to Stonehenge, been to Cuzco and Sacseyhuaman in Peru, seen pictures of Easter Island statues and pictures of the size of stones at the Egyptian pyramids. Yes, they had engineering smarts for large objects, but what is your evidence for sophisticated philosophic thought at our current level?
Evidence: We are not alone
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Sunday, January 04, 2015, 10:08 (3611 days ago) @ David Turell
> > tony: Why is it always the assumption that these ancient civilizations were backwards, ignorant, and unsophisticated? > > > > http://listverse.com/2013/04/12/10-mysteries-that-hint-at-forgotten-advanced-civilizati... > > > For a bunch of backwater hillbillies they sure put us 'sophisticated' sorts to shame. > >David: I've been to Stonehenge, been to Cuzco and Sacseyhuaman in Peru, seen pictures of Easter Island statues and pictures of the size of stones at the Egyptian pyramids. Yes, they had engineering smarts for large objects, but what is your evidence for sophisticated philosophic thought at our current level?-Well, we know for fact, based on archaeological evidence, that they had advanced mathematics, and there is evidence to suggest they had knowledge of advanced optics and nanotechnology. There is also evidence for technology on the other end of the scale, at least as far back as the Babylonians, and some evidence suggests further back to the Minoans. We know for a fact that they had sophisticated language, writing, art, and religion. We know for a fact that had advanced knowledge of astronomy, chemistry, metallurgy, and medicine (Brain surgery in ancient Egypt and plastic surgery in ancient India). -What you are really saying here is, sure, they had the math, science, engineering, medicine, government, urban planning and development, but they were still backwoods hillbillies in terms of philosophy. That makes no sense at all.- "All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?" ~ Life of Brian
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Evidence: We are not alone
by David Turell , Sunday, January 04, 2015, 14:36 (3611 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
> Tony: Well, we know for fact, based on archaeological evidence, that they had advanced mathematics, and there is evidence to suggest they had knowledge of advanced optics and nanotechnology. There is also evidence for technology on the other end of the scale, at least as far back as the Babylonians, and some evidence suggests further back to the Minoans. We know for a fact that they had sophisticated language, writing, art, and religion. We know for a fact that had advanced knowledge of astronomy, chemistry, metallurgy, and medicine (Brain surgery in ancient Egypt and plastic surgery in ancient India). > > Tony: What you are really saying here is, sure, they had the math, science, engineering, medicine, government, urban planning and development, but they were still backwoods hillbillies in terms of philosophy. That makes no sense at all.-Your facts are perfectly correct. And I remind myself that current philosophers refer regularly to Plato and Aristotle.-My point differs in that you are referring to the foundations of knowledge and thought built by previous humans. We have built on that previous development. I think we are more complete now that we have modern research and communication to show all of us what the rest of us have done in the past. The explosion of knowledge I've seen in my lifetime is amazing. Don't you think human thought evolves?
Evidence: We are not alone
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Sunday, January 04, 2015, 15:28 (3611 days ago) @ David Turell
David: Your facts are perfectly correct. And I remind myself that current philosophers refer regularly to Plato and Aristotle. > > My point differs in that you are referring to the foundations of knowledge and thought built by previous humans. We have built on that previous development. I think we are more complete now that we have modern research and communication to show all of us what the rest of us have done in the past. The explosion of knowledge I've seen in my lifetime is amazing. Don't you think human thought evolves?--I see history as more of a wave. Most people think a wave rushes to the bottom and then races back up to the top before crashing again, but that is not actually true. The vast majority of change happens immediately after the peak/trough, and then slows down as it passes the point of equilibrium and approaches the subsequent peak/trough, repeating the cycle until all the input energy is spent. -To frame this analogy in terms of humanity, I think we started with much more potential energy (capability/brainpower) than what we have today. We took off out the gate like a rocket. 90% of the change in a wave happens in the first 10% of the motion. So there was a surge in technological increase. Then, as our potential caught up with technology, our growth slowed, and we became more and more reliant on our technology, which further diminished our capability. We peaked, technologically. -When we hit that peak, our tech was at its highest but all the things that made great in the beginning were practically gone. And we crashed, back out of the gate, racing backwards, losing our technology while simultaneously looking more of our potential energy. Whether that occurred as a result of the biblical flood or some other cataclysm may be arguable, but the fact that advanced civilizations around the world disappeared at nearly the same time is undeniable.-The wave was reset and we started climbing again, trading our individual potential energy, supplanting it with technological progress, until we are where we are today. At the top of the wave, seemingly riding high but unaware that we are sitting at the cusp of a major reversal in progress.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Evidence: We are not alone
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Sunday, January 04, 2015, 15:50 (3611 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
Before you wave this off as fantasy, consider a few points:-First, imagine a scenario where our civilization was wiped out on a global scale tonight. You don't have to consider a single family survival scenario like Noah, but even if two million humans survived spread out across the globe, what knowledge would be lost? Sure, the immediate survivors would remember some things, but technology and capitalism have already supplanted the ability of the vast majority of humanity to create anything themselves without being able to buy something from the store first. -What are the chances that you would have an electrical engineer? A metalurgist? A chemist? A doctor? Someone knowledgeable enough or capable enough to breed yeast for wine, bread, or beer? A carpenter that could harvest trees and convert them to raw building materials? Without the most basic of the technologies that we have come to rely on, they would most certainly do the exact same thing that we witnessed in ancient civilizations such as the Aztecs, Mayans, Greeks, Romans, Indians, Egyptians, and others. They would gravitate to what used to be major cities, and then try and build on top of the ruins, if for no other reason that there was already readily available raw materials that did not require pre-requisite knowledge to gather. The temple of Baalbek (link above) is just one such example, but they exist all over the world, and it is a tradition we still keep today. Just look at the monument being placed over the 9/11 site. Whether commemorative, religious, or simply pragmatic, my theory fits the observations. It fits the OOP anomalies that we find all over the world. It fits the ancient records of pre-existing civilizations or "First Men". It fits the recorded accounts of a world wide meltdown of civilization, including the Indian and Jewish texts which describe civilization peaking and being so corrupt that it had to be destroyed.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Evidence: We are not alone
by David Turell , Sunday, January 04, 2015, 18:29 (3610 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
Tony: It fits the recorded accounts of a world wide meltdown of civilization, including the Indian and Jewish texts which describe civilization peaking and being so corrupt that it had to be destroyed.-I think your theory fits.
Evidence: We are not alone
by David Turell , Sunday, January 04, 2015, 18:27 (3610 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
Tony: The wave was reset and we started climbing again, trading our individual potential energy, supplanting it with technological progress, until we are where we are today. At the top of the wave, seemingly riding high but unaware that we are sitting at the cusp of a major reversal in progress.-I agree that progress comes in waves. it seems to me we have to absorb the advances before moving on. Your analogy should imply that there is some undertow in waves. Also the sea level does not change, while I view that the crest of the waves pile up on each other and we do keep advancing.
Evidence: We are not alone
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Monday, January 05, 2015, 07:11 (3610 days ago) @ David Turell
Tony: The wave was reset and we started climbing again, trading our individual potential energy, supplanting it with technological progress, until we are where we are today. At the top of the wave, seemingly riding high but unaware that we are sitting at the cusp of a major reversal in progress. > > I agree that progress comes in waves. it seems to me we have to absorb the advances before moving on. Your analogy should imply that there is some undertow in waves. Also the sea level does not change, while I view that the crest of the waves pile up on each other and we do keep advancing.-How does that fit with what we saw, for example, during the dark ages coming after the Classical era?
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Evidence: We are not alone; fun for Tony
by David Turell , Monday, January 05, 2015, 14:06 (3610 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
edited by David Turell, Monday, January 05, 2015, 14:16
Just for Tony:-http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/01/04/indians-invented-planes-7000-years-ago-and-other-startling-claims-at-the-science-congress/
Evidence: We are not alone; fun for Tony
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Monday, January 05, 2015, 17:36 (3610 days ago) @ David Turell
Just for Tony: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/01/04/indians-invented-planes-70... I know that modern scientist would love to take a poke at the vedas, perhaps they should show some of that legendary (read: laughable) scientific objectivity and actually do some research before poo-pooing someone for considering the possibility that ancient people actually knew what they were writing about.-http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Evidence: We are not alone; fun for Tony
by David Turell , Tuesday, January 06, 2015, 00:15 (3609 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained
> Tony: considering the possibility that ancient people actually knew what they were writing about. > > http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas-Fascinating site. While we toured India in 2000, our guides referred to the Aryian invasion. I had no idea it was just a theory. Thank you
Evidence: We are not alone; fun for Tony
by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Tuesday, January 06, 2015, 07:55 (3609 days ago) @ David Turell
> > Tony: considering the possibility that ancient people actually knew what they were writing about. > > > > http://archaeologyonline.net/artifacts/scientific-verif-vedas > >David: Fascinating site. While we toured India in 2000, our guides referred to the Aryian invasion. I had no idea it was just a theory. Thank you-I always try and remember that the history we are indoctrinated into as schoolboys was written by the winners. The losers are almost always considered 'barbarians', 'savages', ignorant, backwards, or maligned in some other way. Tell people something early enough, long enough, and often enough, and it will become a 'truth' that is hard to dislodge from the population.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
Evidence: We are not alone
by David Turell , Friday, January 02, 2015, 15:51 (3613 days ago) @ BBella
Bbella: For me, I am open to the possibility that what people claim to hear and see with their own eyes is just exactly what it is. Sometimes things are just exactly as they seem - at least possibly.-Fascinating. And it is why I believe so strongly in a human consciousness and the interconnections we have.