Agnosticism and other related labels (Agnosticism)

by dhw, Tuesday, May 06, 2014, 19:58 (3854 days ago) @ romansh

ROMANSH: It is almost as though in your world something is either blue, green or neither. And if someone describes something as bluey green it is a twisted use of language.-Dhw: You asked how I would describe a weak atheist. I responded: "an agnostic tending towards atheism". This is my equivalent of your bluey green, in case you hadn't realized.-ROMANSH: In case you did not realize atheistic is my equivalent to bluey.-A few days ago, you said "atheistic" meant "atheist like" ... do I have an atheist-like disbelief in men walking with dinosaurs? ... and now apparently it's bluey green. So you meant: do I have an atheist-like, roughly three quarters disbelief and one quarter belief in men walking with dinosaurs? Ditto with the "god of the flood", and the ancient gods. The more you wriggle, the lower you sink. Stop it.
 
Dhw: [According to your twisted use of terminology, someone can be atheistic, theistic and agnostic all at the same time] and even in relation to one and the same god.-ROMANSH:I certainly have not meant to have said this. Please point out where I have said this.-dhw: You obviously don't realize the implications of your language, even when they're pointed out to you, as follows: You tried to justify your question by rephrasing it: "Do you actively disbelieve in the god of the flood and man comingling with dinosaurs?" I commented on the ambiguity before answering (28 April under "Dawkins dissed...), and wrote on this thread: "Are you going to point to every single story about every god and say that someone who rejects a single story is atheistic? If someone disbelieves in the story of Noah but believes in the story of the parting of the Red Sea, does he then become atheistic AND theistic "with respect to" that same God? What kind of language is this?" Of course you did not respond. Add being agnostic "with respect to" the God of the burning bush, and you have your trio.-ROMANSH: Just curious ... is there any difference for you when we use atheist as an adjective and atheistic?
Whilst I can't say I recommend any of them per se, I have no problem with any of them and is how I generally use the meanings.-You asked me to tell you how your twisted use of terminology had unintentionally led you to the illogical claim that a person could be atheistic, theistic and agnostic all at the same time even in relation to one and the same god. I have done so, and this is your response. Since you clearly have no intention of conducting a meaningful dialogue, and can't even make up your own mind what you mean by "atheistic", I'm sorry but I see no point in continuing a discussion that had already lost its direction the moment you started playing with men and dinosaurs.