Tree of life not real (Introduction)

by David Turell , Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 15:27 (3932 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained


> David: " .. once it did appear, it progressed from single-celled organisms to us complicated conscious humans. Darwin theory obviously does not tell us how evolution causes speciation, but it must have happened."
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> Tony: This is the difference between certainty and speculation. You say "it must have happened". I say, show me. While that may seem like an unfair challenge, that is the exact same challenge I am faced with when I express my faith in God. I am told to prove that he exists. In fact, this is the same hang up DHW has with believing in something without evidence of it that is tangible. 
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> For the record, I am NOT saying you are wrong, only that we all must adhere to the same standards. If theist must 'prove' god exists, then evolutionist must 'prove' speciation can, and has, occurred to a degree significant enough to explain the diversity we see today, within the proposed timeline for the history of the earth. I don't care much for double standards.-This discussion must have some starting point decisions: 1) is the Earth really layered and are those layers related to time? 2) Is the Earth truly 4.5 billion years old? 3) Is it true that life can only come from life? 4) Is it possible that all the existent fossils in the layers of the Earth were placed there to fool us? 5) Is it possible that all the currently existing living species on Earth were created at the same time?-If the answers follow current knowledge, then speciation occurred, again with the proviso that we don't know how it happens. And the pentadactyl pattern for animals suggests a degree of relationship to a basic original design. I don't think faith is involved here.