Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities (General)
DAVID: In a sense your confusion is everyone's confusion. Ruth's approach is exciting to me because it makes sense as a new way to try and understand the quantum level in a more reasonable way.-It's exciting for me too. However, there are several statements in Ruth's Chapter 7 that bother me, and I'm taking them one at a time in the hope of clarification. At present I'm struggling with her comparative realities (Heisenberg potentials are less real than actual events but more real than mere thoughts etc.). You mention Copenhagen, and you and Ruth repeatedly refer to Heisenberg, so in my eagerness to find out more I've been googling. That hasn't helped! On the first website I tried, I found the following: -"The Copenhagen Interpretation *1. There is no deep reality. Our physical world is real enough, but its quantum foundations are not real (Segré, 1980). This interpretation was favored by Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg."-There are, of course, various other interpretations of the relationship between quantum theory and our world, and we're focusing on Ruth's, not Heisenberg's. My hope is that through these discussions, we shall gain a clearer vision both of Ruth's interpretation and, through that, of the nature of reality. It IS exciting! But maybe it doesn't have to be quite as confusing as it seems!
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- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-07-28, 14:29
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-28, 15:44
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
BBella,
2013-07-28, 19:13
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities - rekastner, 2013-07-30, 22:30
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-07-29, 15:05
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-29, 15:48
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-07-30, 12:21
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-30, 19:24
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-07-30, 22:29
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-31, 02:56
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-07-31, 04:54
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-31, 06:43
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-07-31, 07:17
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-31, 15:58
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities: fields - David Turell, 2013-07-31, 21:18
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities - rekastner, 2013-08-01, 02:33
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-31, 15:58
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-07-31, 07:17
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-31, 06:43
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-07-31, 04:54
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-07-31, 12:23
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-08-01, 02:42
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-08-01, 15:18
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-08-01, 17:12
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-08-02, 13:14
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-08-02, 16:21
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-08-05, 17:44
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-08-06, 12:25
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities - rekastner, 2013-08-06, 14:31
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-08-06, 12:25
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-08-05, 17:44
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities - rekastner, 2013-08-03, 01:41
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-08-02, 16:21
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-08-02, 13:14
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-08-01, 22:46
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-08-02, 02:25
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-08-02, 04:54
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-08-02, 16:02
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities - rekastner, 2013-08-02, 20:46
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-08-02, 16:02
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-08-02, 04:54
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-08-02, 13:21
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities - rekastner, 2013-08-05, 18:01
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-08-02, 02:25
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-08-01, 17:12
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-08-01, 15:18
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-08-01, 02:42
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-31, 02:56
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities - dhw, 2013-07-31, 12:31
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
rekastner,
2013-07-30, 22:29
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-30, 19:24
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
dhw,
2013-07-30, 12:21
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-29, 15:48
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
BBella,
2013-07-28, 19:13
- Ruth\'s \"real\" possibilities -
David Turell,
2013-07-28, 15:44