Questions of Truth and Quantum Theory (Religion)
Mark wrote; "For much of history intelligent people have believed in polytheism or animism, considering the world to be governed by competing, capricious forces. Observation of nature and tribal war encouraged this. Monotheism was a remarkable development, ///" - On this basis 'Zerotheism' was an even more remarkable development! It began with the early Greek philosophers, particularly the atomists, who were able to offer explanations of such happennings as eclipses, earthquakes and storms in materialistic terms, and the Pythagoreans and Platonists who sought mathematical harmonies and symmetries. - Mark also claims: "Monotheism was a remarkable development, arising not from consideration of the origin of the universe but from an experience of salvation, leading to the belief that nothing can compete with their God - in the case of Israel, for example." - The concept of a God who belongs to one tribe or people has been one of the most ghastly developments ever, justifying wholesale massacres of people (the Amalekites etc) because they believed in another God. Yahweh was originally just one among many gods (the Elohim), and he had many rivals among other tribes (Baal, Moloch, etc). - Mark continued: "All too often the resistance of Christianity to scientific advance is cited, ///" - That is because such opposition actually occurred, and continues to occur. - Mark claims: "/// but the reality is that a strong case can be made that the belief in one God who is the source of all is the basis from which we can trust creation to be ordered and comprehensible and go on to do science." - This view of God is that of the Deists and only came in with the Enlightenment period, which was after the scientific revolution, which in turn owed its origin to the Renaissance, which was based on the rediscovery of ancient Greek science. It is a purification of the concept of God, resulting from the discoveries of science. - Mark: "Atheists may think it is an easy assumption to make, but it took millenia to achieve. And atheism offers nothing to support it." - A rational outlook took millennia to achieve because the forces of anarchy and unreason took hold of the reins of power, in the Roman Empire and wider, and inaugurated the Dark Ages of theocracy.
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