Consciousness and Max Planck (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, April 21, 2013, 15:50 (4235 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: Finally, the Max Planck quote: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Max_Planck
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> "As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter."-> dhw: Here is another quote which took my eye:
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> "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."
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> dhw:I agree that consciousness is fundamental. Whether matter derives from consciousness or consciousness derives from matter is one of the great divides between theists and atheists.........The source of consciousness is the key.-Be careful. Your thoughts are creeping close to mine! Consciousness is not matter,but it must relate to energy in some way. And energy is at the base all there is.