Science study supernatural? (Introduction)

by dhw, Saturday, April 13, 2013, 13:18 (4243 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: We are having a problem between us because I envision a quantum level for consciousness, for afterlife, and for God. Since we do not really understand quantum behaviour but can compute it and describe it partially, my own theory is nebulous. Your last sentence about the supernatural and the brain is within the boundries of what I imagine is the case.-I don't think this is the problem. "Quantum", as you say, is far too nebulous to be pinned down to anything! Our common term is "energy", since we have agreed that energy is the "first cause", and if "intelligence" is NOT the product of the cells, there is at least a clear logic behind the idea that it is energy within the cells that returns to the universal energy when the cells die. But it will return with the knowledge and memories it has acquired during physical life. (NDE patients are still themselves, and they meet people they recognize and communicate with.)
 
DAVID: But this does not travel down to the level of cells in other organs. They are automatically run by the information coded in their DNAs, by a prior event in which an intelligence created that code with that information.-By "other organs" I presume you mean other than the brain, as the seat of our own "intelligence". I'm not saying that my liver and kidneys have a brain! But once there was no such thing as a brain or a liver or a kidney. And so according to my hypothesis, when the first brain, liver, kidney were invented, the "intelligence" that created them was within the originating and cooperating cells. Once the innovation is established, the cells may indeed behave like automatons, at least until they are confronted with new problems. I have continued this discussion on the "Cell response" thread, so let's confine this thread to any further thoughts on the supernatural.