Being Jewish without God (Introduction)

by David Turell , Monday, April 08, 2013, 01:08 (4249 days ago) @ BBella

bbella: But, the malleable fabric of What Is, itself, can seem to bring to those who seek a God of attributes and personality, the very thing they seek for. That is what we are dealing with here within the fabric of what is. It is so malleable, that humans, because of their own creative ability to create within the conscious field of ideas, thoughts and visions, especially when believed exponentially by many, can create the very thing they believe. -Exactly, people make up a God they need.
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> > David: That no one is required to believe in God is obvious. Religion's threat that punishment awaits those who do not believe is infantile stupidity. 
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> bbella: But, within the malleable fabric of what is, the potential to create one's own punishment (from belief) when they leave from one life to the next or maybe even in the afterlife, is a possibility.-Fair enough.
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> David: If there is an afterlife, one can surely enter without belief, and will be surprised. My issue is at a different level. I am looking for a cause for the creation we live in, and I put it that way because I must accept the existence of a first cause. I must point out that religions accept a first cause and then mistakingly apply all sorts of anthropomorphic qualities to that cause. How do they know what they claim? They conjure up divine revelation.
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> b bella: But there remains a possibility, whether slight or huge, that religions did receive divine revelation from more intelligent beings than themselves. Whether from another dimension, planet, or from this planet and hidden, that possibility remains. Evidence that's been handed down with many indigenous peoples stories, writings, even pictographics on caves, etc., says to me, to keep my mind open to the possibility.-My mind says, no. We are far more advanced now than anything we know from the past. Stories are till just stories. The Bible was written by people, not God. And the portions included were decided by committees. And imagining life from elsewhere simply moves the goal post. Wherever life originated it still comes across as miraculous. I've seen picdtographs along the rivers in the We. Granted a limited example, but very primative.-> bbella: Yes, some religions, Christians especially, have used and abused this information for their own cause in times past. But hopefully we, as a whole species, are in the midst of evolving into a more open minded way of looking at the revelations/books/stories handed down to us from our forefathers.-Yes, hopefully. But the Holocaut was only 70 years ago, and the killing fields about 40 years ago, and then we have the Congo, etc. of today.