Materialism (A mad world)

by dhw, Tuesday, June 19, 2012, 17:17 (4539 days ago) @ romansh

ROMANSH: I have to admit this is a topic close to my heart.
There is only matter (and energy as they are interchangeable). Now do we include the include the patterns that matter and energy form. Do we include the rules that matter and energy appear to follow? 
So what else is there? Our nebulous consciousness?-Yes indeed, nebulous consciousness may be the key to those elements of life that we do not understand. Although matter is energy, that doesn't mean that energy is only matter as we know it. Supposing it can take other forms? Supposing the solid matter of the brain is only a receptacle for a different energy of the mind? For me, there is no avoiding the problem of NDEs, OBEs, and every kind of psychic experience that appears to defy material explanation. Materialists choose either to dismiss these out of hand, or to assume that eventually an explanation will be found. But since consciousness itself and its manifestations remain an unexplained mystery, I can do neither. And so nebulous consciousness is the reason why I accept that there MAY be forms of energy that are quite different from the materialized energy we know. -ROMANSH: The anti-materialists are conflating things like:
science and scientists
economy and economists
politics and politicians
theism and theists
society and people
like Joseph Campbell said - If all you think about is sin then a sinner you will be.-I agree. It's a constant source of misunderstandings. A "defender of the faith" would probably add to your list religion and those who practise it.