Particles, perceptions, passions, perspectives (A mad world)

by dhw, Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 15:38 (336 days ago)

QUOTE (under “Lights Frozen”: “There may be no objective reality at all.” (Researchers at Princeton University)

DAVID: (under “Lights Frozen”): Reality is behind the quantum wall of probability.

Comment 11 from a website: (under “Before the Big Bang? Addendum”): “'What these null results — these non-discoveries — are telling us is something phenomenal and profound: that physics isn't over and done, but rather that the hints of what comes next REQUIRES LOOKING FAR, FAR DEEPER than we're presently looking. That means higher energies, LARGER TELESCOPES, MORE PARTICLE COLLISIONS, MORE SENSITIVE DETECTORS… and quite likely better, newer ideas than the ones we've been pursuing fruitlessly for so long.”
"In other words, when you spend a lot of time and money finding nothing, you have the perfect justification for asking for MORE TIME and MONEY to (maybe) find something.

My conscience is troubling me. As I have made clear elsewhere, while I accept that our perception of reality is subjective, I vehemently disagree that there may be no objective reality at all, and that our reality may be less real than quantum reality. I remain full of admiration for that aspect of the human spirit which makes us constantly seek the “truth”, whatever it may be, and so in principle I am in favour of spending billions of dollars hunting for particles that may not exist, and testing theories that may not be true. But I am full of shame when I (subjectively) observe the callousness of the human spirit that ignores and all too frequently causes the sufferings not only of our fellow creatures but also of our fellow humans. If we are discussing “reality”, I feel obliged to point out that the subjectivity of perception, which is also an act of selection, is a major factor in the human ability to destroy everything we ought (in my subjective opinion) to hold most precious. And if humans can get passionate about particles and the quantum wall of probability, why are they not a thousand times more passionate for instance about the people suffering, starving and dying in refugee camps all over the world? You may notice that I am putting this post under the section called “A Mad World”.

Particles, perceptions, passions, perspectives

by David Turell @, Tuesday, August 23, 2016, 19:04 (335 days ago) @ dhw


dhw: And if humans can get passionate about particles and the quantum wall of probability, why are they not a thousand times more passionate for instance about the people suffering, starving and dying in refugee camps all over the world? You may notice that I am putting this post under the section called “A Mad World”.

The history of Europe from 1914 to 1945 is one long war or preparation for war. No wonder the continent is so passive about helping try to control the rest of the world. Relied on the USA to take care of it, and Obama has roughly decided 'no more'. Pulled the rug out and left a vacuum into which nasty folks have jumped in to take advantage (read Putin and Rouhani) in the Middle East, while China is pushing the limits in the Eastern world, especially in the China Sea. Lesson: only strength works, and Obama has weakened the USA. As the world's policeman since 1945, no wonder there is strong current of American weariness. The UN is worthless in this regard, since it acts mainly as a money factory for third world nations, and worries about inconsequential issues like global warming, which is a prime way to find the money they are looking for. Will Europe wake up? The influx of refugees should apply enough pressure if Europeans can stop following Merkel. She personifies Deutschland uber alles.

If I were president I would re-strengthen our military and push NATO to act with us in Syria, not going it alone.

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