(Balance!) Consciousness, identity, OBEs... (Identity)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Thursday, March 03, 2011, 01:28 (4802 days ago) @ David Turell


> > If hardware is your issue, we already have self-assembling machines that are more complex than the basic design of a memristor. But my point was more geared around software. Once we get a machine with the right basic architecture, further connections can be made purely through software (at some kind of performance hit.) 
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> I didn't know that machines could do that. Fascinating. -This is a simple machine.-More interesting are the ones NASA has been building that will allow satellites and space stations to self-repair from small impacts.-> > 
> > The thinking of AI researchers though, is that if structure really gives rise to function, basic consciousness (as what is observed in all animals) shouldn't require nearly as many connections as what we want in the human brain. Self-aware? No idea. But there would be no real way to verify self-awareness, if you think about that idea long enough...
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> No question about self-awareness. We have it, my dog recognizes himself in the mirror, so he has a little. Can computers ever achieve it? No.-I really think your dogmatic attitude on this point is forever annoying, lol. However, even if we get a machine that acts like us, walks like us, introspects like us--because we don't know how to 'test' consciousness--you can keep making that claim. -Of course, that same fact also allows me equally infinite skepticism to ID, so I suppose it shouldn't annoy me too much.

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