Belief (Evolution)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Saturday, January 08, 2011, 02:54 (4878 days ago) @ David Turell

Actually...-The more I think about it the more I think my thought experiment is relevant. -While it is true that X in my experiment doesn't have language as we know it, it turns out that I think that's exactly one of the same problems we face. -I attack again your notion that we can intuitively "know" something was designed. -Categorically, in every single example of a man-made object you present, we can point to past knowledge about people making things as a guide. -We don't have that with deities. -And life, to paraphrase even yourself...-does not follow any known human rules of design. -So we're faced with a situation where you are claiming design in an instance where you yourself lack a language or knowledge of such a thing being designed.-Human beings can only KNOW that something is designed if and only if we have prior knowledge of designed things. -I'll allow you to say that something "looks" designed, but I will also say that unless you can tell me--explicitly--what was designed and how it was designed, you have no case at all. -Inference is not knowledge, and this is a point that no theist can ever defeat.

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"