The Dodo Problem (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Sunday, November 28, 2010, 21:39 (4918 days ago) @ dhw

For the sake of our discussion, I'm accepting the UI premise and am arguing AGAINST chance. I can imagine him intervening only when he felt it necessary, but what I can't imagine is your scenario that he knew from the very outset that the first molecules would evolve into humans without his doing a damn thing. -Why not: The whole mechanism is there from the beginning with a drive toward complexity in the little old amoeba. And what is the most complex thing in the universe, the UI itself?!. So why shouldn't big-brained primates appear?-> You've admitted that this process would depend on the chance appearance of Nature's challenges, you've agreed that our brains tell us there are easier methods, and you're relying on finding "a reason we don't understand as yet". -Sure there are easier ways to go from dirt to us. A creating God snaps his fingers, if He has any in His brain, and presto, we are here. What I don't understand is why He didn't just do that, unless under the rules governing the UI, if there are such rules, He couldn't just snap fingers, and had to let organisms evolve. That fits what we do know also. -> The above is my gallant attempt to show you that we do not need to find an as yet unknown reason for your scenario, because both my scenarios fit the evolutionary facts as we know them, and ELIMINATE chance. Over to you, dear brother mule.- But you keep bringing up the Dodo. Dodo's and trilobites are chance end points of branching, branching which is a chance occurrence dictated by the genome of life, looking for the best roads to follow. I introduced the chance challenges. There is always chance, but the genome knows how to conquer them, one branch at a time. What I don't like is chance mutation as the guiding force. How ridiculous! To make bio-engines like I have been posting. HAHA.


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