An ideal ultimate truth? (Origins)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Saturday, May 08, 2010, 23:24 (5095 days ago) @ David Turell

Challenge accepted!-First we'll tackle wave-particle duality. I think here, the quote from the page that most pops out is "Both waves and particles might be just constructs of our mind to facilitate everyday talking."-This is because in terms of the mathematics I've been exposed to (Eigenvectors) it isn't easy to clearly state what exactly is going on without some training in mathematics. Is it a wave or a particle? The answer is both. The distinction is artificial. Only when you force a particular observation will it behave only as one or the other. At least to me, this isn't the slightest bit weird. "It is what it is." Again, I don't see how it's possible to base consciousness on that phenomenon. -Then the Hamlet effect you discussed. -Again, we get to discuss collapsing wavefunctions. One of the things that these articles haven't covered at this point yet, is the fact that even though it is technically possible for you to release a ball out of your hand and it will fly up instead of down--it is quite clear that this has never happened. Some of the "weirdness" discussed in here could quite simply be artifacts of the very mathematics being used to discuss them. Yes, observing the system destroys the system, but the more localized a quantum object is, the more deterministic it behaves. When you also take into consideration that an "observation" in these articles also means particle/wave collisions. My lilac out front doesn't turn into a quantum superposition when I'm not looking at it. At a certain point pragmatism must win out over theoretical consequences. -Casimir: A still open question. This is one phenomenon that supposedly strings describe better than Copenhagen. So far--nothing here I haven't already harped about above. -Bomb-Tester: This was new--but so far I fail to see a basis here for a consciousness. -Entanglement: I have a little bit of experience here. I can tell you this: entanglement isn't actually likely to happen at great distances, in fact, it's very difficult to make happen in the lab at all. It IS a quantum property, but it is more of a property that is teased out by experiment and doesn't have any effect on the real world. Though, quantum computing is DEFINITELY making huge plans for this phenomenon. The potential for immediate communications is one of many large technological benefits. -I'm running out of space, but I think this should suffice for now.

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