Epistemology of Design (The limitations of science)

by David Turell , Monday, December 14, 2009, 20:25 (5240 days ago) @ dhw


> Matt: Whether by God or by accident, whatever created the universe set in motion a chain reaction that would end up in ourselves. 
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> The problem here is that you would have to have a quantum computer as big as the universe [...] This actually...gives a bit more weight to the idea of a universal consciousness, though what would be going through the universe's "mind" would always be in a state of flux. Since every particle contains information about the universe all things are tied together more closely than one could ever imagine.-
Matt: I have heard David allude to the argument that this universe is fine-tuned for life; I would counter that claim. In all of the universe, only THIS planet is known to have this "fine tuning." The universe at large, is downright hostile to life; therefore it is not the case that the universe is fine-tuned for life. -
These two statements are in conflict. The universe is fine-tuned for life. It provided all the elements and conditions for an iron-rich(and metal rich)solar systerm in which an Earth could appear and foster life somehow. Only certain universes in a multiverse can do this. There seems to be general agreeemnt on this point. The anthropic principal is a handmaiden to it.