Immunity: detecting dangerous bacteria (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Saturday, November 18, 2017, 15:12 (2323 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: As for design, how many times does an agnostic have to tell a panentheist that every design does not have to be preprogrammed in the first living cells 3.8 billion years ago and then passed on, or personally dabbled by a God? How many times does an agnostic have to tell a panentheist that if God exists, it would have been far simpler for him to give living cells the ability to do their own designing? No chance involved in any of these complexities, and the option open that your God designed the designers.[/i]

DAVID: And you have glossed over your own point: if cells can do their own designing, God designed them to have that ability! Or they are designed to be automatic. Either way God is at work and agnosticism disappears.

dhw: The glossing is yours. You consistently maintain that cells cannot possibly think for themselves. Now you have them learning by experience and deliberately changing themselves. I’m delighted to see your change of heart.

I have ALWAYS left open the possibility that your God designed the autonomous intelligence of cells, and have repeated it here: “the option open that your God designed the designers.”

Do I have to parse what I wrote? All I have stated is if God made cells totally automatic or gave them an ability to design, it is still God at work, with no other alternative source of creation. Do you have an alternative to God?


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